Double Oven Dilema!

13 years ago

We are completely remodeling the kitchen in our new house. The whole main floor is very open concept with the living room, dinning room, and kitchen all open. Because of this we only have one wall to put cabinets on and we are trying to design a large island that we can put the cooking appliances in. What makes this even tougher is I am really trying to include double ovens - for entertaining purposes. We are thinking of doing a cooktop in the island and then are still playing around with how to include the ovens. Does anyone know if you can split the typical wall mounted double ovens and put them side by side in an island? We are hoping to put the a gas cooktop with downdraft above one oven, then have the other oven next to it. However, we've been to 3 appliance stores and none of them have been able to answer this for us. Any suggestions/advice is greatly appreciated!

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Sargent Appliance

13 years ago

First off I need to advocate for visiting a local, preferably family owned and operated appliance store. Agent Orange and Big Blue do not count as appliance stores. You will likely not find appliances experts in a big box store....those poor people have to run between departments all day long.

So, yes, you will need to separate into two single ovens. Please consult the installation instructions for the requirements of the desired manufacturer; requirements vary. Please keep in mind that there are certain gas cooktops that can be mounted above wall ovens and certain ones that are simply too deep. Again, budget and desired features will lead you to cooktops but the installation instructions will dictate what will work.

I want to be very clear about ventilation. A pop up downdraft unit such as Dacor's ERV models have the ability to fit behind a cooktop and wall oven. They run narrow but still will require a very deep cabinet in the island. Again, consult specs for specifics. A standard downdraft cooktop (JennAir) will not work because the ventilation and wall oven will be occupying the same space. The same is true of most standard pop up downdraft units because the venting falls under the cooktop area.

I hope this helps!

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onthefence
13 years ago
On most major appliance sales websites, they have pdfs of the installation manuals for most models. I'd select one or two options you like then check the installation manual to see how/if they recommend doing this.

My guess is if it isn't covered in the manual, it isn't included in the warranty. Even if you could find a way to do it, you'd be voiding your warranty.
Cindy Quinton
13 years ago
I don't see any way that you could put an oven under most downdraft cooktops, as they are very deep and you will have either venting that runs down and out, or a re-circulation kit. Either one will take up most of the under cooktop area. I have seen ovens designed to be used side by side or even in different areas of the kitchen though.
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kathleen MK
13 years ago
Have you looked at stoves that have double ovens? I think the one I saw at Home Depot was a GE and it had a gas range on top of electric ovens.
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OnePlan
13 years ago
You can install a pair of single ovens, have a hob over the top and a downdraft extractor at the rear in a deeper island . Won't work in a standard depth worktop, but in an island it will as its deeper - alternatively you could have an island cooker hood above the hob.
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OnePlan
13 years ago
This plan has a pair of ovens, hob and hood over the top
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Dytecture
13 years ago
you'll need 2 separate units instead of a combined double oven.

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Arlene Awarda Architect
13 years ago
Yes, I agree with Dyecture! there are also enlongated stoves with double ovens below, measuring around 48".
onthefence
13 years ago
I missed the point in the original post about a cooktop w/ downdraft. I agree that 2 separate units side by side will be the only way to accomplish this - but I doubt this is even doable if using a downdraft.
bubblyjock
13 years ago
"Agent Orange" and "Big Blue" - love it!
mefor
13 years ago
How long will island be? You could do single ovens flanking a cooktop. Downdraft for cooktop. Large drawer for pots and pans under cooktop. I have a long island with a warming drawer between two ovens and a full countertop. If you put cooktop against wall with downdraft or extractor hood you'll still have more room if there's no double oven next to it.
mefor
13 years ago
Electrolux have great ovens, really large capacity
Kim Piggush
Original Author
13 years ago
Thank you everyone for your comments!! They have been very helpful! We are very lucky in the our island is very long, so we are thinking we might do a cooktop (either with a downdraft or a venting unit behind it) and cabinets below it, and two single ovens side by side. Now I am just trying to figure out which appliance brand to go with. I've heard lots of different advice at the stores we've gone to, but trying to figure out for ourselves what is best. It seems that the stores obviously recommend the brands they carry and each carry something different! Any suggestions on appliance brands is greatly appreciated!
Brenda
13 years ago
I'm in the process of putting in a new kitchen, and we selected all Dacor cooking appliances.
mefor
13 years ago
Think about putting the ovens on either side of cooktop. More pleasing to the eye.
bubblyjock
13 years ago
kpiggush - I was told, as I cruised the appliance stores yesterday, that Whirlpool was the lowest quality. To avoid Samsung and LG if you can't get them serviced handily, as most domestic service people won't/can't service them, and parts take longer to get here (from overseas). It's VERY hard to sort fact from sales pitch, isn't it.

A good warranty is important to me, so I'll probably buy at Sears; ymmv!

Back to layout - best set up I've seen for wall-ovens was Jamie Oliver's kitchen: they're side-by-side, at the best height - no stooping, no reaching and inviting hot spills down your front:

http://www.ikeakitchendesignonline.com/famous-kitchens-get-the-look-jamie-oliver-tv-chefs-edition/

And...do you know about (the appliance obsessives over at) Gardenweb? You might find posting questions on appliances there useful once you've narrowed down your choice.
Brenda
13 years ago
Do you have a subscription to Consumer Reports? If you are about ready to buy a number of appliances, I would recomend the online searchable CR site.