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H. evansiae or H. anzaldoi?

9 years ago

My H. evansiae has opened up, and it doesn't look like most pictures I have seen. in fact, it looks almost identical to the H. anzaldoi I have that bloomed a few weeks ago. There's no hint of pink in the tepals except for the bottom one, and it the coloration there looks identical to my H. anzaldoi. Also, the tepals have rippled edges, and the tips are pointed like H. anzadoi, not rounded like most pictures of H. evansaie show.

This is my H. evansiae (I removed the anthers to save the pollen):

And this is H. anzaldoi:

They don't look very different from each other in real life, but I wasn't able take pictures of them in the same lighting conditions, so they look more different here.

So I have either:

2 clones of anzaldoi

1 clone of each

2 clones of evansiae

I'm inclined to trust the identity of anzaldoi because I got it from Telos. The evansiae is from eBay, advertised as "a great clone."

Both bloomed this year for the first time. Both bulbs are about the same size, both went through a brief dormancy for about 2-4 weeks, both scapes are the same height, both had 2 flowers on the scape, both had flowers of the same size. Also same potting mix, same size pots, same watering schedule.

I haven't grown either of these before, so I wanted to ask people with more experience to help me ID these two bulbs.

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  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thank you for the good wishes, Donna!

    'Lemon Gold' is putting up a scape here presently. It's been an easy variety for me. Did yours fail to root and/or succumb to rot? The price increase is unbelievable.

    I have a group of mislabeled bulbs from Komoriya that they haven't been able to ID. Some of them are stunning. I'm glad that you like the "ugly duckling."

    I apologize for belittling its appearance. I hope that your bulbs will thrive in the whiskey barrel. They are very expensive here, and they don't endure for more than two years in the winter damp.

    I'm trying my best to narrow my focus to the species, primary hybrids, my own crosses, and cultivars that truly capture my heart. Given the sheer size of my collection, just keeping up with watering and fertilizing is a time consuming task that requires several days each week. Yet, with seedlings, new acquisitions, and the degree of my obsession, numbers continue to increase.

    Don't forget that my first botanical passion was the Pachycaul and Caudiciform plants that I've been growing since I was very young. I need to clone myself, or grow extra arms and legs! Beyond their gift of beauty, what I love most about plants is how they respond to nurturing. I apologize for anthropomorphizing, but for me, their gratitude is palpable.

    Comments (8)

    • 9 years ago
      last modified: 9 years ago

      Greetings
      Justin,

      H.
      evansiae is a self-sterile and highly variable species. I have several clones, but cross-pollination
      among different clones has not resulted in any seed production. The question of
      whether H. anzaldoi is a synonym, variation, or close relative of H. evansiae
      hasn’t IMHO been satisfactorily answered to date.

      I
      haven’t purchased the H. anzaldoi offered by Telos, however, I do grow a lovely H.
      anzaldoi hybrid from Komoriya. If you stored pollen from your Telos H. anzaldoi, my suggestion is to pollinate those H. evansiae flowers with pollen
      from your H. anzaldoi. I have a feeling
      that you could obtain viable seed, and ultimately some offspring with those wonderful frilly edges.

      Cheers,

      Blanca

    • 9 years ago

      Hi Blanca,

      Thank you for the valuable insight! Do you know the other parent of your hybrid?

      Thankfully I saved the pollen of H. anzaldoi. You never know when you might need it, right? I pollinated it today, so fingers crossed that your feeling about the seeds is right.

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    • 9 years ago
      last modified: 9 years ago

      Hi Justin,

      You are most welcome!
      No, that secret has not been revealed to me.

      I’m so glad that you saved pollen! Please keep us updated on the outcome.

      A rootless bulb produced the maiden flowering (shown below). The flowers were supported by a very weak
      scape. The bulb has remained small, but is healthy.

    • 9 years ago

      Hi Blanca,

      This flower is so graceful and simply lovely! Might you divulge the name under which you bought it from Komoriya? I have gone through all my Komoriya pictures searching and there are several that are similar but nothing exactly like yours with that pure soft peachy color!

      Also, have you ever been able to successfully bloom Calypt Parodii? I've seen Maria's pictures and it is just so lovely but I'm having no luck with mine at all!!

      Donna

    • 9 years ago
      last modified: 9 years ago

      Dear Donna,

      Thank you!

      I caught a
      vicious upper respiratory bug from my mom that I can’t seem to kick, so I’ve
      had more time than usual to read and post.
      In 2013, I purchased this bulb with the cultivar name ‘Anzal
      Lemon.’ I believe that it was only
      offered once or twice. The color isn't actually peachy. I'm glad that I purchased then because the prices were a
      fraction of what they are now.

      Below is
      Komoriya’s photo of ‘Anzal Lemon.’

      Update for
      Justin      :

      Donna’s question
      motivated me to check my detailed records and correspondence. I discovered that, out of curiosity, I wrote to Komoriya Nursery in 2014 to inquire about the parentage of their cultivar 'Anzal Lemon.'

      Reply from Komoriya: “This is a hybrid of H. anzaldoi and H.
      cv. 'Lemon Gold'.”

      More for Donna:

      Regarding
      ‘calypt parodii,’ I have a good-sized bulb from June 2013 that produces plenty
      of leaves, but it has never flowered when I’ve been present to take a photo. I also have one or two mislabeled bulbs from
      Komoriya that produce flowers, which look somewhat similar to Maria’s photo of ‘calypt
      parodii.’ One of the tags is labeled “Not
      Sakura Shibori.”

      Here is an example. This one is truly peachy.

      I confess that this is not one of my favorite flowers.

      Love,

      Blanca

    • 9 years ago
      last modified: 9 years ago

      Hi Blanca,

      First of all, I hope you are feeling better soon, there's not much worse than one of these spring colds that seem to want to hang on until summer! A bit of misery to go through, during one of the most beautiful times of the year!

      Thank you for the information on Anzal Lemon, I do remember the name but apparently, didn't save a picture which I did for most of the Komoriya bulbs. Your photo is lovely, perhaps not peach exactly, but a blush color when viewed from my computer. I will keep my eyes out for one if the price isn't too high and there is something else I might want to keep the postage down! Unfortunately, I lost my Lemon Gold and the prices are too high for a replacement these days!

      As for calypt parodii, I think your picture is lovely, with more flowers yet to bloom! As for my two bulbs, this year I will plant them outside in a whiskey barrel along with a dozen or so of my other Komoriya's which aren't doing so well, either; alive but not thriving, growing in the wrong direction!! It seemed to work last year for about 8 of them, so I will double or triple the amount in two barrels this year!

      Feel better soon...

      Donna

    • 9 years ago

      where to by H. anzaldoi？thank you

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