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Sacrifice tree or roof?

9 years ago

I'm doing an addition to a midcentury modern home. We already are cutting the roofline back once, and now it turns out that because of my tree, we will have to cut it back again or remove the tree. I planted the tree 2 yrs. ago and it has really grown. It perfectly blocks the home behind me. I want to cut the roof back, but I am beginning to wonder if all of these step backs are going to look funny? I am hopeful that with the tree, it wont be so noticeable.

Also, the roof over the pool coping isnt a real roof, but will be cut out like other areas of the house.


Red - original home roofline, blue is proposed addition roofline.




Current floor plan (except toilet and shower are now flipped):


The tree:


Existing roof:

Comments (17)

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Are those blue and grey things in the pool for things that fall into the pool to be able to get out of the pool?

    rockybird thanked Mark Bischak, Architect
  • 9 years ago

    Thanks Mark. The tree provides privacy from the house behind that looms over mine. I suppose I could put something else there instead. With the roof, I dont know what I could plant, but maybe just a block wall with agave?


    I dont think I can extend the roof over the hot tub..it's too far away.

    Here are some more pics from other vantage points:

    Yes, they are called frog logs, for animals that try to drink out of the pool but fall in. I think they help. I also put bowls of water outside to try to keep them from the pool.

  • 9 years ago

    You can always get a larger tree planted after you take this one out. Tree spades are awesome things.... Get the structure right and then worry about the landscaping - that stuff grows. ;-)

    rockybird thanked just_janni
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thank you jannicone. It sounds like both you and Mark think it will not look good if the roof is cut back again.

    So I guess there are only two options:

    -Cut the roof back over the bedroom and leave the tree...would that look awful? The architect thinks I should do this.

    -Leave the roofline and cut the tree down. We will have to cut into roots for the footer for additional support pole if I am to leave the roof line as originally proposed. Reading Jannicone and Mark's opinion has me leaning this direction.

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Architecture. Then landscape. One is where you live and hopefully can resell when it's time. It's more or less permanent. The other is the next most important thing. It grows and changes over time. And needs trimming!

    rockybird thanked Virgil Carter Fine Art
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thank you!!! I think I will have to keep the roofline as in the original drawing. I spoke to a Nursery and they said Texas ebonies are pretty hardy. They said they would just cut into the roots for the footer, trim the tree and hope it makes it.

    Does the first step in bother anyone?

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    You could have your architect design a screen, appropriate to the architectural style, that would also act as the support for the roof over the hot tub; of course only if a roof over the hot tub would be beneficial.

    rockybird thanked Mark Bischak, Architect
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thank you Mark. I dont need a roof over the hot tub, but I appreciate the advice. :)

    I'm hoping the one step out on the plan above will look okay, but worst case I can cut back the current roofline to line it all up.

    I wish there were a way to build that screen to help shield the neighbors but we cannot get the same block anymore that the house was built with. I had to restore the block work on the front and I still need more for the back. The last owners had torn most of it down and stuccuoed the rest to look like small columns. This is what I restored in the front:

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Have the nursery dig up the tree and moved it. If it was only planted 2 yes ago, thus will be easy. I've moved huge trees and they all survived.

    rockybird thanked Anglophilia
  • 9 years ago

    Thanks anglophilia..The relocation companies tell me it is too big to move as they cant get a vehicle back here.

  • 9 years ago

    can you find a precast concrete manufacturer willing to create block for you? This doesn't appear to be a difficult mould to create.

    rockybird thanked kirkhall
  • 9 years ago
    rockybird thanked lyfia
  • 9 years ago

    I'm with Anglophilla, call an Arborist if the relocation company can't help you. I'm a gardener, so I'd leave the tree and change the roof around it.

    rockybird thanked pamghatten
  • 9 years ago

    Thank you everyone for the ideas!!! lyfia - Thank you!!! I am going to call them!!!

    I came up with a soln. that the architect approves of. We will just move the pole around the corner. He said he will rework the framing a little in that region. The roof will still run into the side of the tree, but I will try to keep it trimmed. I am very hopeful it will be okay. The landscaper seems to think so.


  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Relocation company doesn't want to hand dig that tree to move it, lazy swine! It CAN be done with hand digging. Several years ago, I had a southern grandiflora magnolia that was about 15 ft tall, moved from the front corner of my house (it was a volunteer that came up all by itself!), to behind a fence in the back to match another volunteer that came up in a perfect place. With plenty of water, it will do just fine.

    Trees were hand dug for decades, long before all the big tree moving equipment.

    rockybird thanked Anglophilia
  • 9 years ago

    Thank you Anglophilia! If it comes to having to move it, you give me confidence that I will find someone to do it.


    I think it is going to be okay. Between moving the pole and having the tree trimmed (landscaper was out here today), I think it will work. :)

    It is a lot skinner now (tree on the left):