Even at midnight with shop lights! Lol My husband thought I was nuts.

Folks, we have one that has ventured to the dark side.

LOL
I've never gardened at night. Ever. Really. I know ya'll believe that. ;)

We crazy gardeners!

bon

Bon, hahaha. We have the big double outdoor floodlights at the north end of the house and the big yard light put up by the electric company right next to the veggie raised beds, so it's pretty darned light--In fact, I whine about it a lot. It's light pollution! So I have been known to work a little at night. . .

Love all the pictures!!!

Alexis, I understand why your husband, the landscaper, would hate mowing. It is a work/home thing. I was a bookkeeper and streamlined my own bookkeeping down to the minimum I could. Preparing for taxes every year is like pulling teeth. My mother used to say the cobbler's children go barefoot.

I can't say I've ever worked in the garden at night. The mosquitoes would run me inside if I watered in the evening. I have walked by with a flash light while putting chickens to bed, but that is as close as I've come.

My plan for strawberries is a bed similar to the pyramid, but the boxes would be lined up at the back. So it would make stair steps on 2 sides and solid wood on the back. This is because you don't want them growing on the north side in the shade. You would have the same amount of space, but it would all face south. I tried to find a picture, but couldn't. Does this drawing make sense? I refuse to buy strawberries till DH makes one of these. I don't think I could deal with them, even in a raised bed.

Our beds are filled with soil. The one in the picture had some kind of Mel's mix blend in it. I planted sage and rosemary in the top box and they thrived because, I think, of the good drainage. I considered a worm tower. I might do that for a strawberry bed, but most herbs don't require real fertile dirt. You could fill some of the space with wood, like a hugelkulture. The soil does settle over time

The north side of the pyramid is shady, the east side, obviously is shielded from afternoon sun. The sage and rosemary grew wonderfully. I made the mistake of planting oregano on the south side. It wanted to take over the world. I had salad burnet in the north west corner. I tried thyme on the north side. It died, but thyme always dies for me. Mache grew well there untill the chickens decided it was their dust bath. It is supposed to be perennial herbs in that bed, so I'm still working out what grows best where. I have a pot of chives that will go, probably, on lower level east side. The borage got too big and so did the sorrel. Maybe I'll try thyme again. Winter Savory? Oregano will NOT be included. It has it's own separate pot, like the other mints.

Hi guys. Have been away for a few years. Like maybe more than a few as I have not been here since this was Garden Web. Posted a lot then and traded a few seed and what-not. Getting back into the swing after a hiatus due to my wife fighting with cancer. The ole gal beat it finally after two years.

I have had literal hell this year trying to get a garden even in here in SE OK. First my tiller was completely gummed up from sitting with flat tires ect. Was late getting parts to rebuild the carb. By the time I got my tiller lined out then the rain. Did I mention the rain? It just never seemed to dry up enough before another gulley washer drowns it out again. I just got my beans planted today Ky wonder pole, French morgaine fillet, some unknown type of large butterbeans and Top Crop and Tendergreen bush beans. still trying to baby some squash and tomatoes and peppers that might nigh drowned. Knocked them for a loop and probably lost 2 weeks and then the wind storms hit for 4 solid days. It just finally completely wore out a few tomato stalks and bell peppers. Things finally calming down but it seems chilly for this late in the year. Maybe its just me and my old bones. Finally got a good stand of corn started. I have a bicolor OP Tru Gold X Silver Queen cross sweet corn I worked on for seven years before and this year I am crossing it with a purple corn for the cancer fighting properties for the wife. Maybe can get some tri color corn hopefully.

Hope to get watermelons and catelopes in tommorrow before something freaks out weather wise again. Going to grow Kleckley's sweet, Charleston Grey, and eitherGarrison or Congo. For melons I am going tp try something different from the usuall Hale' best old standby. Going to try Charantais and Petit Gris Rennes and see if they will grow here.

My garden is even shaped like the state of Oklahoma. Did not plan it that way its just the way it worked out over the years going around an apple tree and giving up on the panhandle part to nothing but a melon patch due to heavy soils with poor drainage

Amy, I recommend that planter. I don't have it any more, but I've done it.

I miss it. Will do again.

Amy, total makes sense. I'll have to try that. I love building stuff! I probably have enough lumber laying around.

Cool, Bon! I googled for a pic and couldn't find one.

Alexis, the boxes have legs under them so they don't sink into the dirt of the box below, which they will do, (ask me how I know). DH tried to make the 2nd bed so the boxes stacked, but they didn't quite stay put. Could be done with pvc or something I suppose.

Hi everyone, I'm so exhausted from gardening. You girls must be super fit, especially you Alexis! :P Wheelbarrowing two commercial truckloads of mulch is a lot of work.

I'm going to link some photos of my neighbor's tree if any of you can ID it. (Their dogs destroyed their fence yesterday, so I couldn't ask them since they were not in the best mood.) Praying it's not a black walnut tree so I can plant more tomatoes and peppers!!

Nancy, yes I'm a pepper lover! The spicer the better. Haha. The czech peppers look so interesting. I was so sad I couldn't go to the Spring Fling. Wish I could have seen all the plants and peppers you guys brought.

Did you say you just moved in recently? If it's black walnut, I'd think you'd see some of the little buggers on the ground from last year, unless the lawn was all raked up and tidy. Also, I couldn't tell for sure whether the leaves were alternate or opposite. (Black walnuts are opposite.) I'm thinking no, but then, they are a distant memory for me now. . . .although there is one more out there that isn't bothering me too much as it's a little ways away from the main back yard. Oh--and black walnut leaves are serrated, I was thinking, and so googled them just now, and "they" say yes, black walnut leaves are serrated. Now I'll have to go look tomorrow morning if someone else hasn't let you know yet.

Eileen, I'm not certain but I think it is pecan if I'm looking at the right trunk.

Eileen, I don't believe this is a black walnut tree. The leaves on "your" tree are way too smooth in my opinion vs what's pictured below. Also you could peek over your fence to see if they have grass growing around it, or anything else. May give you a hint, but I really think you're in the clear!

And Next year you will have to come to the SF!!

Yep, that's the black walnut I know, Alexis.

You're cleared and good to go, Eileen.. . . but having said that, I googled other trees that have juglone. . ."Because decaying roots can release juglone, toxicity may occur for several years after a tree has been removed. Other trees closely related to black walnut, such as butternut, pecan, shagbark hickory, and English walnut also produce juglone, but at concentrations lower than black walnut." And just today I was googling plants that will tolerate juglone. . . found out there are supposedly lots that will. I know they will murder smoke trees, 9-bark (I've seen posts that 9-bark aren't affected, but MY 9-bark was! And in general, ALL my plants in that bed perked up.) And the bit about juglone toxicity remaining for several years. . . that's also not even a given. Almost instantly after we cut out the youngish (and perhaps that might have something to do with it, also, as the trunk was probably only 20-25 inches in diameter) black walnut and burned out the stump several times, the plants were sighing in relief. . . and a year later had 3 volunteer tomatoes that, amongst them, covered about a 10x10-foot area right where it was (and presumably, black walnuts are anathema to tomatoes)

Alexis's picture doesn't show a defined serrated edge, but a very slight one. And the leaves aren't as shiny, to my recollection, as yours were. Yep, my memory is that Alexis's photo is spot on..

Above is my center bed--it's big and has lots of stuff in it. . . gonna get one of those big daylily clumps out. . . and despite some tomatoes, peppers and herbs and shrubs, am expecting an explosion of flowers this summer, too.

My little tiny veggie beds, with a new blueberry tiny bed out front. We'll see how it goes. The tomatoes, potatoes, cabbage, onions are doing great.

The hydrangeas in front.

The ugly driveway. Gravel everywhere in a really big portion of the property. My suggestion to GDW last year was to let the weeds and grasses fill in, and he was okay with that since he doesn't have to weed whip and I won't permit weed killers. Less work for him, more for me, and that's fine--I don't mind mowing one little bit.

North deck bed.. . . with brugmansia, rudbeckia, couple clematis, nicotiana, zinnias, hyacinth beans and blue morning glories, moonflower coreopsis. . . I forget what else.

Late Start but I'm coming.

The Oklahoma shaped garden is just getting some sun after drowning for weeks and wind and cold weather. Plowing in the panhandle today and 5 buckets of compost for my watermelons and some Whipporwill peas, (Yum yum one of my favs). Look rich enough? Also found some old Mountain Hoosier Watermelon seeds. Those things get huge if they will come up. Maybe Congo, Kleckleys Sweets or Charleston greys and a hill or two of Chantarais or Noir de Carmes

CHampinion

Looking through to OKC toward Miami you see my puny waterlogged tomatoes and peppers trying to bounce back. Arkansas Travelers survived the drowning the best as always then Bradleys. Champions about died. Champion my butt. Even a few Creoles look better but barely. Spacing may look large but I water them all the way through to November and they will be huge by then and needing al the room they can get.

Pontiac red taters behind and My own personal cross of corn just days old going through Anadarko up to Bartlesville. From Grandlake to Muskogee all the way to Broken Bow has beans just planted yesterday. Ky wonder poles and a few morgaine fillet. Tendergreen and Topcrop bush and the crazy store bagged butterbeans below.

en and Topcrop bush and the crazy store bagged butterbeans below.

And Finally The reigning WORLD CHampion.... ....."BUTTERBEAN"

No, not the fat guy. This guy. I planted some straight from the package from the store. They were Huge so I had to try em. We will see what a landrace I get outta these guys. Ha.

That is hysterical, Jerry! How much fun your Oklahoma garden is. Ingenious! Looks like you have plenty of room for it to be a bigger and bigger Oklahoma. . . I can't imagine anything of mine growing in the full sun; they're all acclimated to the bit they get, for better or worse.

I like the Oklahoma motif, my DH could find the towns easier than my beds. The beds are numbered in MY mind, but it makes no sense to him.

Spent lunch break sketching out my backyard. Most is already planted, so it looks like a lot of empty space. I'll plant basil, sage, cosmos, zinnia, etc in all the empty spaces.

Ha, "I forget", LOL. I often have markers that read IDK (I don't know). Looks like a nice set up.

Nancy, did I mention how pretty your place is? Love the log cabin.

I didn't mark mine where I have the I forgets. That is funny. I have too many of those.

I planted the fling plants and I think I heard them ry for their native soil. I stuck them in rocky red stuff that is not soil. It's fertile though because my friendship garden plants thrive there.

Pitiful looking but there are wildflowers in foreground. Nice contrast for the purple irises. Milkweed, beebalm rhubarb, 2 artichokes, fennel, pecan tree babies and now

Dewberries and all the other goodies I brought home. The persimmon I spread out 1 at each corner and 1 between 2 pear trees on south end of orchard.

Caprock canyon in the background is my favorite view

Jerry, some how I missed your first post in the thread. Very glad your wife is better.

Hi, Kim, do you know what wildflower that is? I think I have some blooming where I planted wildflowers, I've been hoping it is one I planted.

The rest of you have to know what wildflowers are what. You MUST and then tell me! I joined FB's Ok Native Plant site. . . I noticed just a couple days ago, folks are asking what's what but I'm not seeing answers! Everyone must be too busy gardening! LOL. I'm going nuts. . . every time we go to town, I keep going "ooo" and "ahhhh." I wanna stop and get some of everything! Those orange ones are Indian paintbrush, aren't they? I saw someone's close-up of the yellow ones. What a fun combination they are, along with white ones , as we're driving down the road. At any rate, we haven't stopped to see the orange ones. We WILL by golly, tomorrow. I keep telling GDW I think they are; he doesn't believe me. (Indian paintbrush is our home state Wyoming's state flower.)

Kim, I love the view, which also reminds me of the wide open spaces in Wyoming. As much as I love living in a forest now, I do love the wide open spaces, too.

How does your rhubarb do? I'm wanting some. . . very well might be too hot, but need to find out.

I have a few IDKs, too.

Thanks, Amy. All my life owning a log house was my dream. Here we are.

Oh, JL. I can't read the text on your yard map! I couldn't get it enlarged on my computer--does the enlarge view work for the rest of you on these photos? And the writing was too faint for me. I tried and tried. . . don't suppose you could darken the letters or make it a little bigger? (I could see "I forget" and larger text but nothing smaller than the "I forget." :) I have a few "I forgets, too!"

I'm almost always on my phone, so i can't tell you how to enlarge on the computer. But on the phone you press the image until a window pops up and then select "open in new window". Maybe try right clicking the image?

Man I didn't do much today. I just felt exceptionally tired after 2 hard days at it. I puttered around the house and caught up on some of the stacked up inside chores laundry ect, and oiled the cabinets after 10 years whether they needed it or not. lol

Nancy, I used to live down SE right in the middle in the Kiamichi mtns in a place called Big Cedar so I know all about trying to get some sun squeaked through.

I am just a dumb ole dirt farmer, In the sun out in the open and directly in the dirt, it's the only way I know. They have been doing it that way for 7000 yrs and I've done it that way for about 50 so I could never change now.

Amy. Wife had breast cancer at like a stage 3. Dumb idiot Fla. doctor kept trying to drain the lump telling her it was a cyst. Came back here and it was just about too late. I drove her to specialists 185 miles every day for two years. She had a real rough go of it with Chemo and Radiation. I like to have lost her. Now if that was not enough she is now in Florida taking care of her sister who now has the same thing. Runs in their family I guess and I don't envy them. She made it through but has real bad neuropathy and burning tingling nerves in her finger tips and can't feel her feet and is disabled now but she made it.

Oh dear heaven, Jerry! Bless her heart. My prayers and thoughts for you both! And NOW taking care of her SISTER! Oh man. I feel so horrible for her (and you). And will pray for improving health for her. Dumb idiot doctor inDEED.

Kinda puts things in perspective, doesn't it.

Well I'd be a dumb ole (amateur) dirt farmer too if I lived where you now live! I'm a dumb ole little-bit-of-dirt-wherever-an-occasional-sunny-spot-shows-up amateur!

A friend of mine recently got breast cancer. I'm frightened by the fact it took so long for them to figure out she had it and the way treatment varies. Health care has made great advancements, but they are still trying to figure things out. It is hard on the patient and it is hard on the care giver.

I am so far behind on this thread that I cannot catch up and am beyond trying. Jerry, I am glad you wife is doing better, and sorry her sister now faces the same battle. I will pray for good health for both of them.

There are lots of dumb idiot doctors out there, but also some great ones. I was blessed to have great doctors when I was diagnosed with breast cancer. I am an 18-year cancer survivor. In the worst irony ever, the doctor who diagnosed my cancer and responded very quickly (he got me in to see the surgeon and the oncologist the very same day, which is unheard of) later died after a brief cancer battle himself. It was shocking how quickly cancer took his life---in mere months.

Amy, I agree that they have made great advances but still the treatments that save someone's life often have terrible side effects that cause other health issues for the rest of their life. I lost a high school friend to breast cancer about a decade ago. She'd had lymphoma while still in college, beat it, but then had lifelong health problems as a direct result of her cancer treatments. Somehow, her breast cancer doctor also linked that cancer back to her earlier treatments, or maybe it was that the earlier treatments caused her body not to respond well to treatment for her breast cancer. I hope your friend has good doctors and that her medical care helps her survive her cancer. When someone has cancer, it affects so many people---their immediate and extended family, friends, etc.and it is hard on everyone.

Jerry, There's nothing wrong with being a dirt farmer. I come from a long line of dirt farmers and, at heart, consider myself just an old dirt farmer too, although my farm is only meant to feed us, not the world at large.

I'm glad the massive monsoon of rainfall stopped and you folks in the wet parts of the state have been able to dry out and get some gardening done.

Dawn

I looked this up it would have been easier to do sketch from this lol.

FUN!!! Likewise, GDW went and got the plat for me when I was wondering about exact dimensions--that's what I said, would have been easy just to trace over the plat! LOL

We went out and measured, with a tape measure, to get dimensions so I could draw mine out exactly. I never got it right. If memory serves, the google pic of my back yard doesn't even include the shed. I should go look.

Kim, is that before you lived there?

Actually it is now a more recent pic, more recent than the street view, because that has my old car in it. The over head view has the chicken house in it, so it's within the last year. I can't make out the beds clearly at the maximum zoom. Sometimes I feel like big brother is watching.

Kim, Yours shows up really well.

Amy, The last time I looked at ours, the trees tower over everything else so much that you really cannot see the garden---just the house and garage and driveway. I don't even think vehicles were visible. Maybe the greenhouse and shed in one photo or maybe not. I cannot remember. I don't think rural areas get mapped very often because ours was really, really old and we sure don't get streetview because not much is visible from the street if your house sits way back from the road over a hill or ridge.

I don't like the fact that Big Brother is watching, but it is what it is.

Dawn

Yes I am living here. You can see my camper the roof with all the tires on it. That was when my son tried to put a tarp over it to keep from leaking lol. Well the tarp blew away and the tires didn't budge. I think this was probably 14 to 16 months ago. I like how clear this is. If I close in too much than you can't tell what's what. Of course we don't have a lot of trees blocking the view

I have enjoyed seeing everyone's pics and sketches. Ideas, ideas, ideas, lol. Sign of a true gardener maybe? I sure hope so. I do want to share my garden photos though. I am so very proud of what my husband and a good neighbor did for me this year. My husband does all my dirt work for me. The planting, weeding, harvesting, canning and then pulling up of plants at season's end is my job, lol. At any rate, this year, they broke my hard pan for me. That, in conjunction with him turning my poor OK soil into top notch top soil over the last 5 years is making a difference. I'm hoping that this year will be a banner year for us. I have 18 rows of cukes, watermelon, cantaloupe, squash, radishes, peppers, tomatoes, peas and beans. We have another separate garden for my corn simply because the soil at the edge of one side of our property is actually better for corn.

This is our friend ripping my garden (breaking the hard pan) in Feb. For those that have never done this, the forks are going at least 6 ft deep and ripping through the hard pan of earth that prevents moisture from getting to your plants, decreasing watering during the season. Or, if ripped, when you have monsoons like we did the last two years, it enables the earth to absorb more water, therefore, less lakes (IE ruined plants) and run off. It has made all the difference this year in what is growing and how it is growing.

This was taken around Mon or Tues, after I weeded and rebuilt my rows. Yep, I need paneling but cow haulers are rarely around long enough to get everything done at home, perhaps come Saturday. This is the middle of my garden. On each side are peppers and beans/peas.

These are my beans. I direct sowed on Easter. I have yet to water this entire garden. Luckily, we have had rain (not too much, not too little, not too severe) for the last 2 weeks at least once a week. When I took this picture, we had not had rain for over a week. You can see how dark my dirt is. That's moisture from breaking the hard pan. I've had all of these beans/peas pop up without watering and relying simply on the work they did in feb. I had to replant about a week before this pic was taken and everything popped up without watering from me or the good Lord. I'm tickled pink.

That is beautiful. Thanks for sharing your progress. I too enjoy seeing people's pictures. Some great ideas have came from this. I am waiting rather impatiently for a plow to get my field ready to plant my cow peas and okra.

Karen. . . . love the place! The dirt looks great!

Thank ya'll. And now, I wanted to show ya'll the damage we sustained and why breaking that hard pan matters when you direct sow as we do. Had he not done that, the spot in the picture that still has water would have been my entire garden today. It's what has happened for the last 2 years. This fixed my problem. As you can see, everything else has already had the water absorbed. Last night we had flash floods. Within 20 mins of the rain starting, we had 6" of rain running through my entire yard. The electricity was lost and we all had to head to the storm shelter behind my property. It stormed at least 6 hours last night. I'm sure our water/ditch system was full. Everything in town in any direction drains to my property. Luckily, I only lost 3-6" of dirt on the bulk of the rows. Rebuilding won't be so bad. Where was this rain in April? I'm happy with ripping my garden. It saved it.

potatoes are dying off Yay! Onion bed to the left now seeded with watermelons and melons and surrounded by the sweet potato plants

From the backBeans Don't think they're getting enough sun. Okra is right in front ready to take their place.

*Can't afford to fix this house yet

This is the parsley and beets, I think Very shady and moist spot. I think this will be most excellent for leafies this fall.

onion harvests not much of them and OH lookie at the quake damage hehe
Truly a cottage house. I pray to have a full cottage garden eventually. So nice.

Monster planter being used as a trellis for more beans at street side. Still learning about beans. Nice to see how they grow. That's the fire department in the background to which I often refer. It's about time for them to drain tanks and the kids can play in their water. I bust my butt to keep this area hygenic-looking.

Future pumpkin patch! I love this back side to the house which is more "country" and quiet.

Wild lovelies are happy to get some heat.

Grand Asia sweet and the Molokai potatoes are doing excellent. I have 9 sweet potato plants total. Anything I get from George's suggestions do superbly well in my location.

Happy to see the pics, Bon! I love the back side; it does look so peaceful. . . It looks like an enormous place. Love the giant planter, and the what do you call it, lounging spot on the porch, with drawers? Very cool. everything looks good. Your beds are all so beautifully weeded!

Yes, well the house will always be there, waiting to be worked on! lol. Ours, too. I've been meaning to buy paint for the deck for about 4 months. Keep putting it off. Painted part of it last year and then ran out of paint. They quit carrying the brand we used at Home Depot and I don't know how I'm going to match it, so just keep putting it off. Plus, it's so expensive! So so many house things like that.

Tx The weird thing on the porch is a home made trundle bed, a DIY desperation for sleeping arrangements. When the kids outgrew it, I tossed it on the porch. I need to tweak the trundle, paint and donate it.

Yeah, the problem I have with house paint is coming up with enough $ sufficient to cover the entire surface area for the promise of matching color.

Well, actually my biggest hurdle is the roof. lol Needs a new roof. ha

I like that trundle bed!! I know, Bon. I only have to get 5 gallons, but still! Oh. . . speaking of roofs. We had an acquaintance ask us if we got a new roof. I was puzzled and said, "nooooo." She said, "Was your roof always orange?" I laughed and said, "Yep." How many people around this area have an orange roof. . . not many, around here. It's actually supposed to be more "copper," but in some iight it's indeed very orange. I don't know what that white line shows up on Google maps (its an easement for electric). Thought I'd share our trees. . . and on the left (wes) that's the road with another half acre of trees, and on the right (east) is another half acre of trees! lol

Your property is sublime. I love love love it and the trees, especially the trees. I think it's because it reminds me of my childhood and the trees and the wildlife were the safe places. But that cool breeze beneath the trees .... yep Where I grew up there were only fences on people's properties when they had livestock and horses. I was able to blaze trails through a 25 mile radius on horseback. by the time I was a teen, most properties had been fenced off. We weren't riding by then, but still. Miss those good old days riding my palomino through the forest with my trusty red setter following right along.

I was using a hatchet to down some invasive poplar saplings, yesterday and it was hot and I don't feel well and I was very tired. I kept saying out loud, "I love trees." *whack* "I love trees." *whack*

Bon, it is sublime and it isn't. If I could just have maybe 3 smallish areas that get full sun. . . . but boy the picture you just painted of yourself riding your palomino through the forest with your red setter. . . . I am in love with that picture. (Ever read the book, "Big Red" as a child, about the Irish setter?) AND, the only part of my "dream home" I'm missing (besides just a few perfect spots of full sun) is the horse. LOL. BUT. I did have many years with the horses, and I realize now I can't do everything or pay for everything, so am just glad I have the memories, at least, and my small collection of exquisite horse statues/ceramics/figurines.

But those trees and the cool breeze are the reasons why I have no red tomatoes yet, peppers are inching along, nicotiana and Shasta's are falling over. . . other flowers are struggling to find enough sun to bloom. . .. hahahahaha.... oh well. Gotta take the bad with the good, huh! Wait--seems like you are having the same kind of growing season I'm having, right? You don't have a lot of sun, either, do you, or do you in certain places. Well, those who have sun have the grand veggie gardens. . . those who don't can only drool.

My trees are encroaching on the garden space. This year we've been cloudy and cool.

Ah yes. Horses are labor intensive and expensive! I'm grateful to have had my experience with them. There's simply no other creature on earth with the magic of companionship like that of a horse and its rider.

I haven't read that book! Yeah, the connection between the horse and its rider/owner is very similar to the movie Avatar except anybody can ride horses. Only open humans can connect. The intellectual fortitude of the rider atop a compliant massive power structure where trust runs through and through.

Beautifully said, Bon. My feelings exactly. Dogs are wonderful. . . they're much more like us (as are cats, I think.) Although we don't speak their language in words and common moves, we kinda communicate. With horses, it is a bit different. The language is more subtle, harder to find. And therefore, more magical. And especially magical when the two of you agree to be a partnership, you on the horse's back, after you've entered into this partnership, and both of you being in tune with each other, and the horse sensing every move of your knee or every touch on the rein. . . . Truly, that is a fine-tuned partnership.

Yes. Exactly! When it is agreed. My mother eventually sold my old palomino. He was more docile and well aged. I heard a little 4 year old was riding him in 4H shows winning ribbons all over the place. So sweet to find that out after all those years.

He performed better for the 4 year old and that makes absolute sense to me.