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Adenium seed question...

Soaked about 30 seeds overnight, most of them sank to the bottom (if that means anything). Filled 3" pots with pebbles about 1/3 up and potting mix with perlite and bark fines filled the rest. I was able to put about 5 seeds per pot and covered them with 1/4" potting mix. Sooooo my question is (thanks for the patience, lol) do I need to cover them in plastic to create a greenhouse effect? They are currently on my patio table that has a huge umbrella. The temperature drops to about 73°overnight with highs in the upper 80s or more during the day. If I don't cover them how much do I need to water?? Now that I've gotten this far I'm stumped on how to proceed. Please help.

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  • 9 years ago

    Thank you Dain. Do you cover them with plastic or anything else until you see growth? Or do you leave the pots open to air?

  • 9 years ago

    A little clear plastic will help keep them from drying out so quickly. Most fresh adenium seeds should germinate in about a week.

  • 9 years ago

    you can always slip the pot into a plastic zip bag and set it in a warm spot for a couple days until the seeds start to germinate … zip the bag closed, it will help retain moisture ….

  • 9 years ago

    Thank you so much. Pardon me for asking more questions... Once I cover them or put them in bags, do I need to open and water again or leave them alone until i see growth?

  • 9 years ago

    Yayi - You want to keep the soil moist (I use a spray bottle), and the containers covered. Whether you use Plastic Wrap or Ziplock bags, this will help keep the moisture in; and the temperature up.

    I use a propagation tray w/ a vented lid.


    I also place a heat mat beneath the tray to keep the temp & humidity up.


    I like to keep the soil temp at about 90-92 degrees. It's also good; when you uncover them to water; that it allows for air exchange.

    Make sure you don't keep the temp too high; because you could cook the seeds. Also, the set-up (above) is a prop tray w/ drainage holes placed into a prop tray w/ no holes, so the plants aren't setting in water.

    Rob

  • 9 years ago

    Wow Rob, that's quite a setup! Thanks for all the great info. Kind of embarrassed to show mine. Lol

  • 9 years ago

    rob is never shy to show us his … *lol*

  • 9 years ago

    Just thought of another question...

    When and if they sprout, should they be in the sun? If so, just a few hours or all day? Right now they're under my patio umbrella. Should I keep them there instead?

  • 9 years ago

    Yayi im just about to sow about 200 seeds im going to take pics as i do it i will post them in about 4hrs i hope this will help stay posted.

  • 9 years ago

    Yes, will definitely stay posted! Thank you, I'm so looking forward to it!

  • 9 years ago

    Yayi, I hope they all grow big and pretty for you. That is full time job.

    Marie

  • 9 years ago

    Thank you Marie! I need all the positive energy I can get.

    My kids are big now. One almost in high school so he's in his own teenage world where adults are not welcomed (Lol), the other in South Korea with the US Army. So yeah, I've got plenty of free time now. Plus I'm learning that it's good therapy. :)

  • 9 years ago

    Ok y'all, it has been raining for 4 days straight, not a drop of sun the whole time. Are my seeds gonna sprout??

  • 9 years ago

    That type of unforeseen weather; is precisely why you should invest in a Heat Mat (and a thermometer). Nothing germinates Adenium seeds; like bottom heat.



    And yes, if your plants germinate in full sun; they should be fine (unless it's excessively hot), just stay on top of your watering. If they begin to wilt, move them to a cooler area.

    Rob

  • 9 years ago

    Rob - I seen Seedling heat mat on ebay, do you need a thermostat with the mat? Thanks!

  • 9 years ago
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    Oh, if Yayi's in south Florida, the last thing he/she needs is a heat mat right now, trust me there! Hahaha. I'm in Georgia and it's been raining cats and dogs for weeks now but it's still plenty hot. 70's at night and higher 80's by day even on cloudy days. Welcome, Yayi! Glad to have you join us. As Rob mentioned you can overdue the heat and cook the seeds. I'd keep them out of the sun to get them going, then when or if the sun comes out, ease them into it for a couple of hours WITHOUT the covering so you don't cook them. Then increase the sun exposure over a few days and they'll adjust to it.

  • 9 years ago

    Thank you Hyn, love this forum!

    I have such lousy luck. My pots have seen ZERO sun, let alone bright light. We have been in constant cloud cover since last Thursday. I have them outside on the patio table under a huge umbrella so they aren't getting all the rain. I spritz water 3-4 times a day as necessary so it won't dry out. The heat has stayed consistent regardless of the rain. But absolutely no sun! I'm so sad thinking my seeds won't sprout. I don't care if they're all pink! I love pink!! I just want my little babies to be born. Lol

  • 9 years ago

    I'm in the same boat, Yayi. Rain, rain, rain. But I still have a bagged tray of seeds germinating outside under the eave and they are setting out the first signs of tap roots just fine. They don't need sunlight to germinate but they do need warmth and to be damp but not sopping wet.

  • 9 years ago

    Patty, just so you know... Still raining. Lol

  • 9 years ago
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    Today ours finally stopped. The sun even peeked out briefly! I think we are going to get a respite for a few days so I worked on more repotting I was behind on doing anyway. It takes a while to repot 400 seedlings! Gah. But wow, they have really been growing like weeds the past few months. Vigorous! I keep calling them seedlings but they'll be a year old come August.

  • 9 years ago

    Just got up for work and, you guessed it, still raining. I miss my yard. I haven't been able to go out there and inspect my flowers and trees. I don't have many but I love this new found way of life. But on the up side, they look beautiful from the window! Nothing better than natures watering. Lol

    400 seedlings?? Do you sell them? I'm praying for just a few to pop out of those cups! :)

  • 9 years ago

    Wow, we have a much improved weather outlook that suggests a low chance of rain for the coming week. It got cooler and the sun came out this morning! I haven't seen that for a while. Yay! Maybe it'll clear the skies down your way too.

    I do sell plants, but I do not yet sell adeniums. I grow and hybridize gesneriads. I want to let these adenium grown on a while and see them bloom, and train some of them before I start choosing what I may keep to grow for myself and hybridize. So next year perhaps.

    I mostly have obesums I started from seed last year but I also have an assortment of various kinds of arabiciums like RCNs, as well as a few Thai Socotranum. I also have an assortment of grafted plants I imported. I wanted to be sure I had some excellent purples among other things to work with.

  • 9 years ago

    I'm not gonna lie... I just Google'd every plant name you mentioned. ;) That all sounds like a lot of work. But I can only imagine how fun and satisfying it must be when you see your beautiful product.

  • 9 years ago

    Look look look!!!!!

  • 9 years ago

    Congrats on your first baby adenium. Fingers crossed for more to pop up soon.

  • 9 years ago

    nice job in the words of Freddy cruger ITS A BOY hope its not pink

  • 9 years ago

    Congratulations, Yayi!

  • 9 years ago

    Thanks everyone, I'm so excited! My husband says I've gone crazy. He just doesn't understand. Lol

    Peter, I hope it is pink, I love pink!! :))

  • 9 years ago

    Horayyy congrats and Pink is beautiful :)

  • 9 years ago

    I found two more! I wish i could stay home from work tomorrow and just watch them grow. :)

  • 9 years ago
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    I put down a small flat worth of adenium seed two days ago myself and several of them have taproots out and starting to stand up. Most of this batch are RCN's but a few obesum on the other half. I also enjoy watching them at this early stage. I am so pleased they are sprouting for you, Yayi. ;)

  • 9 years ago

    Rob

  • 9 years ago

    Woo hoo! Congratulations on your first babies, lol. Some simple pinks can look fantastic! Once mine yearlings bloom I'll definitely keep few pinks :)

  • 9 years ago

    Rob - Lovely pink blooms.

  • 9 years ago

    Yayi, so did you ever cover them? Or not? Just kept spritzing them with the spray bottle? Thanks! Carol

  • 9 years ago

    Yup, I went with the spritzing. Still doing it actually. It's so hot over here that even under the patio umbrella the mix dries quickly, so every time I go outside I spritz. Seems to be working, they look happy. :)

  • 9 years ago

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    Nothing is dry here. Rain, rain, more rain... one tropical storm after another coming up from the gulf. So much flooding around here but we are up on a ridge. My horses are looking a bit sad and muddy. I gave up and brought all of my adeniums and orchids into the house and have the dehumidifier running or they'll all rot. By Sunday it looks like we may get a break from the rain for a few days so I can go set up my mini greenhouse.

    They are looking good, Yayi. Keep it up and in time they'll get more leaves and start branching out. They are pretty cute as babies. I'm loving mine. Especially the ones with the itty bitty tiny leaves and lots of branches!

  • 9 years ago

    Rob, those are some really nice plants! Can I ask when you planted them?

  • 9 years ago

    Yayi - nice seedlings :)

  • 9 years ago

    Wow, Rob! Those look really nice. Post pictures after transplant. I'll need all the visual instruction I can get for the next phase. Lol

    Thank you Agartta! :*)

    Patty, I absolutely love watching them grow. Every morning before work I check up on them and I'm so excited when I see a new leaf or they're leaning in a new direction. My husband says they're stealing all of my attention. And it's true. Lol

  • 9 years ago

    Lisa - I planted that particular batch on March 15th 2017, so they're about 3 months old.

    Wow, I had to look back in my calendar to get that info. So, turns out they're right on schedule. (Time flies!)

    Rob

  • 9 years ago

    Yayi, how many of your Kiseki seedlings came up?

  • 9 years ago
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    Funny you should ask... I was counting babies and I have 38! Imagine my surprise since I thought I only had 30. Went back to my order detail and realized that I actually ordered 10, 15 and 15 for a total of 40 seeds. A little overzealous for a first timer, right?!! Lol. Can't wait to have a yard full of pink blooms. <3

  • 9 years ago

    Haha, I am so glad most of them came up! Oh, you'll have more than pinks - you'll surely have some reds and probably red and whites at the least. If you ordered yellows you'll probably get some of those too. ;)

  • 9 years ago

    Hi Guys! I'm new in this group, Im also an Adenium Lover..We have lots of old Adenium, 5 to 10 years old now, but the problem is there are no seeds. We are also into grafting different variety of Adeniums. We are in shortage of Adeniums, I hope someone could help me to rwhere can I buy Adenium seeds and rootstock. Thank u! I'll be posting our 10 years old Adenium next time

  • 9 years ago

    Tell us where you are located, Marylyn and add it to your profile name such as zone and country. Then we can better assist you. For example, if you are in the USA, places like Lowes and Home Depot stock various common pink adeniums grown by Costa Farms out of Florida. They are a good choice if you want fairly cheap but larger root stocks without having to pay shipping. You can pick them out in person so you can get the caudex you like best with plants in the 18 inch tall range. This late in summer they may be getting scarce and hard to find but a month ago were plentiful.

    For seed there are many choices. All you need to do is Google. But that really depends on /what/ kind of seed you are looking for. Obesums for flowering, or arabicums, Thai Socco, DHA, miniatures, etc. There is a small but growing source for adenium seeds in the USA and Australia but most of them are still imported out of Thailand or Taiwan.

    If you want obesum seed Ebay is one choice especially if you want cheap seeds by the 100 pack for germinating both blooming plants and root stocks. For example, I get cheap 'root stock' seed from Thai Perfect Gems though they aren't the best seller I'd recommend if you wanted good quality. I do get an excellent germination rate on their seed.

    For higher quality seed check out Mr. Ko (also on Ebay) and message him for his seed price list and he'll send it to you via email. Orient Adenium (Rinoa) also has good seed and if you Google that link will come right up. Adenium King has good seed though a little more expensive. Adenium Center sells seed but is probably the most expensive.

    For various arabicum or Thai Socco there are more obscure sources - many of which are only available through Facebook. Ram Adenium, Dino, and several others depending on precisely what kinds you are looking for. But there are also websites and Ebay auctions. King Adenium has reasonable prices on their arabicums and Thai socco for example.

    If you want variegated adenium of any kind I don't suggest you bother ordering seed. It doesn't seem to throw variegated and may be leaf chimeric. Best to order grafted plants in that case. Good luck!

  • 9 years ago

    welcome marylyn. we look forward to sharing with you and having you share with us ...