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Help with bulb planting plan - large area with vinca cover

I am just finishing up a big landscaping project in my backyard, which involved killing everything on a large, steep slope (approximately 300sf) and then planting about 1,000 bare root vinca minor plants to cover the area. The vinca is going to take some time to fill in, obviously, and while I still have easy access to the area, I thought it would be a great time to underplant some spring bulbs.

My problem is that I have ZERO clue as to how to design a plan for bulb placement. Furthermore, I would eventually like to add some larger perennial shrubs to this slope (even some this fall, if possible), so I need to keep the eventual sizes and locations of those plants in mind if I don't want to go digging up bulbs later.

Anyway, I would love some advice from you bulb experts. Here are some photos of the area. The first one is a composite showing the entire area. The section in question is just the slope directly below the cement retaining wall and hedge (the hedge has been removed and a raised bed will be built in its place this fall). The yard is actually two slopes separated by a flat area, which is currently mulched and being used as a pathway to allow access to the upper slope. The lower slope is still a hot mess of weeds - eventually that will get cleared out and mulched as well, but the top slope was about all I could handle this summer! The cluster of perennials next to the stairs and just below the hedge is actually built around a large rock and a few man-made brick retaining terraces - it's a very nice little spot for a bed, and I'd like to plan something equally nice around the large rock in the center of the slope as well.


Here's what it looks like now - as you can see, I'm removing the weeds and mulching bit by bit. Hard to see the vinca amongst the mulch but I promise, it's there! The weeds on the lower slope obscure the flat area from view at this angle. I added a strip of edging just behind the rock to create a walking path at the top to provide access to the new bed and the slope below.


Another shot from the side - you can see some of that perennial bed with the rock peeking out:


Anyway, any guidance you could offer as to how to get started with a bulb planting plan would be greatly appreciated. I am having trouble envisioning how and where mass plantings could be arranged. Given that the vinca is a low grower, I am planning to concentrate on shorter plants, like crocus, chinodoxa, colchium and maybe scilla, with some muscari and hyacinth to add some height. Any other shorter-stature bulbs I could consider? Or later bloomers, to extend color once the vinca is mostly done blooming? Thank you in advance for your thoughts!


Comments (13)

  • 9 years ago

    Great to know about smaller bulbs and vinca. Since our vinca is newly planted and not really doing anything at the moment, I am having a hard time envisioning how it will behave when mature, and I haven't yet witnessed its rampantness! This area is behind the house, so only visible to us and our closest neighbors, for the most part. It is closely visible if you are standing on the flat area between the slopes, but not so much from the patio or the back windows of the house. Perhaps I'll indulge my love of crocuses down along the retaining wall at patio level and go with larger plants on the slope. Other suggestions to pair with daffs? I like them, but I was hoping for more purples and oranges for this area. Anemone? Shorter tulips?


  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Vinca gets pretty thick, no dwarf bulbs will be suitable once it develops. And you can get daffodils with orange trumpets. But do you have slugs?

    biondanonima (Zone 7a Hudson Valley) thanked Embothrium
  • 9 years ago

    I have seen a slug here and there but nothing major. I already have a few daffodils planted by the previous owner and they never bothered them, nor have I noticed them eating my hostas or any of the other usual suspects.

  • 9 years ago

    If you want orange and purple, I'd include some tulips. But not short ones......taller growing types like the Darwin hybrids,

    biondanonima (Zone 7a Hudson Valley) thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
  • 9 years ago

    With taller tulips, I was worried that they might have issues remaining upright due to the steepness of the slope. I also thought they might look a little odd growing so tall above the vinca, especially in the first couple of seasons when it will be very low/sparse - unless I can find something mid-height to complement them? I love them in combination with muscari, but it sounds like they might be a little too small to compete with the vinca?

  • 9 years ago

    The slope will not affect them providing the bulbs are planted at the correct depth. And if you plant in fair sized groups they will not be particularly egregious growing above the Vinca. The do have foliage so they're not like drum sticks.

    biondanonima (Zone 7a Hudson Valley) thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 9 years ago

    I would not do tulips (tend not to reliably perennialize - for me at least) and if you have any deer they like them more than many other things. I would second the daffs, and you can get a lot of variety among just daffodils. I also like wood hyanciths as reliable returners with colors that complement vinca (but some people think they are too reliable). I have them with vinca and they are tall enough above them, but not as tall as most daffs (and bloom later than daffs)

    biondanonima (Zone 7a Hudson Valley) thanked scgekg
  • 9 years ago

    Thanks scgekg! I don't know if tulips will perennialize for me or not, so I would probably limit those to areas that are easy to reach (which much of my slope is not, unfortunately). I love the look of wood hyacinths and I will definitely add those to my list - no such thing as too reliable for me!

  • 9 years ago

    Cammasias, alliums and leucojum would be appropriate...with the former harmonising well with the vinca and having the vigour to compete.

  • 9 years ago

    Nothing to add to the great ideas here except it would be amazing if you planted in drifts or rivers. Like a patchwork of colors. You have the space and blank canvas - I'm so jealous!

    Have you looked at the wholesale mail order nurseries? I mainly know Van Engelen although I have bought elsewhere.

  • 9 years ago

    Campanula, thank you for the camassia and leucojum suggestions - those are two I hadn't seen before and they are lovely! Posierosie - Van Engelen is the one I know too, and their prices can't be beat. Given how large an area I have, I will definitely be buying in bulk!

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Love it! Then, are we going to be treated to some panoramic views this Spring? Hint hint??

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