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Growing adenium indoors, year round?

9 years ago

Greetings!

I have years of experience growing many tropical plants, but am 100% new to adeniums. I don't currently have any, but am currently considering a list of 10-15 varieties that caught my eye, all are labeled as "grafted" and then have a name given by the hybridizes, mostly in Thailand.

I live in the North East and we have 2 season; cold and wet and then hot and wet.....or dry, depending on the year. Taking a large collection outdoors and then hauling indoors invites insect pests, and I have an extensive indoor collection I'd like to keep protected from the likes of thrips. Outdoors, on our wooded lot, we have pretty shady areas and not much sun, anyway.

My questions concern eventual height and a reasonable height I can aim to achieve by pruning for the plants, at maturity and how much light I would need. I was considering 6 2200lumed each, LED retrofit tubes, about 6" above the plants. The light fixture also has a built in reflector. Is it possible to grow, bloom, and achieve reasonable caudex formation indoors, under these conditions?

I've familiarized myself with their watering needs, fertilizer requirements, media, and potting techniques, and so forth, so I feel confident in their basic care.

are there any links to indoor growing anyone would like to share?


Thanks in advance!

Comments (18)

  • 9 years ago

    I'm in the US, zone 7b, in Maryland.

  • 9 years ago

    Hi Andrew......from the US. If you go to your homepage, think it's within advanced settings, maybe, you can edit to add the location info so it appears each time rather than add it manually within your post :-)

    Gill

  • 9 years ago

    Alas, I just can't seem to find the location to incorporate my zone information and I don't wish to create a profile at the moment. I appreciate your help. I did look at the profile page and it's not readily apparent how to add that tidbit to my profile.

  • 9 years ago
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    Mmmmh, I can't remember where it is now either, come to think if it!

    Ahhh, got it, just had a play around and tweaked my own info...this is how it works.....

    Try hitting 'Your Houzz' top right, 'Edit profile' from the drop down bit, then under your 'account info' scroll down to 'profile info' and add it into the box marked 'last name' publicly displayed......that should do it! Phew!

    Gill

  • 9 years ago

    Thanks greenclaws, for your help! Can you describe your lighting situation? I'm supposing it is a South facing window? Do you suffer from pest problems due to limited light indoors?


    Surely someone has attempted either successfully or otherwise to at least overwinter adeniums under lights? It's fairly odd that such a popular plant has few US sellers with any real variety and there isn't much more than fairly basic information available about growing them.

  • 9 years ago
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    Andrew, these are some threads (in no particular order) I've bookmarked for myself. I'm an indoor grower for the time being, but definitely not by choice. Some of the threads are Adenium-related and others are light-related or just general culture. There are plenty of other threads about indoor growing so be sure to search the Adenium and even the Cactus & Succulent forum if you haven't already. The posts are here, here, here, here, and here.

    As a Virginian I have to ask - when did Maryland become part of the northeast? I always thought it was part of the mid-Atlantic. :)

  • 9 years ago

    Maryland is a Mid-Atlantic state. Perhaps it's a regional choice how one refers to Maryland. Lol I'm notorious for using geographical terms interchangeable, such as up and down, failing to remember it's traditionally down South and up North.

    I appreciate your time posting the links and I will browse them. Incidentally, I've been an avid grower of begonias, carnivorous plants, ant plants, gesneriads, African violets, and other plants that catch my eye, under lights. I'm fairly familiar with lighting in general, but also familiar with the fact that some plants, like plumeria, gardenia, and hibiscus are not destined for long term success. I've kept them alive and bloomed them, but I also had constant insect and pests problems and retired those plants from the indoor garden. I'm hoping, under intense lighting, such as High Output LED retrofits, will keep adeniums happy, even if they don't bloom as well as outdoor specimens.

  • 9 years ago

    Correct Andrew, my plants live permanently in the south facing windows, year round. I don't get problems with pests on anything indoors, however, a couple of my many other assorted plants in the g/h do get minor attacks of the mealies but they are easy enough to deal with. It took my adeniums several years to begin to bloom, but I'm OK with that. I've learnt to enjoy my plants weird shapes and class any flowers as a bonus.

    Gill

  • 9 years ago

    .... So, another word, growing Adenium indoor will take longer to get blooms? Just wondering.

  • 9 years ago

    In general yes, but not necessarily, can depend on several other factors.....quality of seed, overall warmth, strength of sunlight and fertiliser are a few. A past poster on here, also from the UK, often got his plants to flower in just over a year from seed... I never did figure out how he did it!

    Gill

  • 9 years ago

    Thank you for the info Gill. I'm new to this. I had killed many seedlings due to lack of research. I finally found that paper towels is the only method that will work for me.

  • 8 years ago

    Gill I also am growing indoors and am just wondering(as I just got an adenium from an angel off this forum as he let me purchase a few from him ..anyways one has very very long limbs/stems,and very tall like leaning over) ..so pretty tho but because I just got it ..I'm wondering if it would be ok to chop it back now as to focus on root growth as well? And it's so long and tall I don't want it getting burnt by my lights and it's almost falling over, I know it's not the right season but considering I'm indoors...what do you think? Here's


    a pic.. thanks Gill or anyone with advice on the matter

    ps I'm in love with this plant and it would really help if I could make it shorter and more compact, it has lost its leaves as it's still acclimating itself..wondering if I should do it now so it can just focus on recovery..I hope I can..

  • 8 years ago

    Kimivu how long does it take to germinate in the paper towel as I'm actually trying both ways right now, soil with heat underneath and the paper towel in a ziplock method, been 3 days today n nothing yet

  • 8 years ago

    Sara, beautiful plant! Usually pruning recommended in spring, but if you really really want to chop it now, you can... just remember that adeniums more likely to put out more new branches during active growing. Right now they are slowing down and you may get only single branch as replacement, which is kinda unsightly.... but you never know. I chopped few of mine last winter, they grew some branches, but I had to re cut about 50% of them again in spring. So I'd say go ahead and cut if you can provide them warmth and enough light. Cut them couple of inches higher so you can cut them again in spring if anything. Winter growing branches were too spindly for my liking, so this year I'll wait for spring to prune. :) Happy growing!

  • 8 years ago
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    I’m from NJ and I bring them outside in late spring and bring them back in October. I purchased my first adenium 7 years ago and didn’t know much about it. Left it inside all year round for 5 years and it never bloom. Took it outside last summer and it started to bloom. They need at least 6-8 hours of direct sunlight during the growing season. They will definitely not die if you keep them indoor. However, if you want them to bloom then you need to place them where they can get at much sun as possible.

  • 8 years ago
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    Hi Sara,

    I have more success soaking them in warm rain water for at least 5-6 hrs, then use paper towels method. I have killed many using seedling soil method. Fresh seeds will sprout within 2-3 days. Older seeds will take 7-14 days Or longer. Also some older seeds will need longer soaking times to be able to sprout but they will eventually and hopefully sprout. I like to collect rainwater to water all of my adenium. I transfer seedlings when they have strong full set of leaves to half potting soil and half small pepples. I also give this mixture a little bit of compost or year old chicken poo. I’ve noticed that with a little compost, they grow quite faster and stronger than my previous seedlings. For me I keep the soil moist and in indirect sunlight for about 6-8 weeks, slowly give them morning sun for 4-6 weeks, then direct sun when they’re about 3-4 months old. It’s trial and errors. I’m in zone 8b central Texas. Evening sun is quite brutal in mid summer over here. Other people may have a different way to grow them in their region though. Happy gardening!

  • 8 years ago

    Elena, thank you so much for your excellent advice..I'm just worried it's going to topple over... I did just receive this buy this adenium (pictured above)from a wonderful friend on this forum.. and as long as it won't hurt it I would like to prune... but not if it will hurt it.. If I do prune it I will definitely cut a bit up like you suggested so I can cut again this spring/summer if I don't get more branching ..your tips are priceless and much appreciated

    Tin ..thank you for letting me know how to get it to flower, I'll definitely be taking it outside with the other couple once it is warm enough..thank you

    Kimivu also thank you for your advice ..I do only use distilled water..is this ok, but I think I may have done something wrong with the paper tower ones as they look to have mabee rotted (dark spot on paper towel.. or is this normal? I also started some in soil at the same time(Friday morning) just to see what method would work best for me but nothing yet..my bottom heater is at about 86 and I've been keeping the paper towel and soil moist.. should I mabee not use bottom heat on the paper towel one? Thanks to everyone for all your help