aww that sucks..i've spotted a few that i'm really wanting to get my hands on..at least shipping was fast..some of the sellers on ebay take much longer to ship items out (which i understand why..its just hard waiting).

...goes and searches up Optimara Smoky Mountain...crap...add that to the list..

and i cannot wait for tonight...love me some jon snow..

yeah, I think I got my 14-12-14 fertilizer tub from them. Too much for a pound of fertilizer--I think it was something like $24--but I couldn't find it elsewhere at the time. Oh well. We live, we learn. Hopefully they will improve with some strongly worded letters.

The Selective Gardener folks seem to be primarily staffed by generic employees rather than persons who grow and love plants. The owners on the other hand, Reinhold and company, seem to be really nice folks who actually enjoy plants and people. Their large company only provides basic services, but usually in a timely fashion.

I have purchased plants and products from them and never had any complaint as far as packaging or timelines goes. I certainly cannot say that of a good many other AV vendors, both commercial and Ebayers.

Now that I have established a list of growers that I know and trust, I don't have those problems anymore.

If I ever find myself really longing for a certain hard to get Optimara plant, I am going to email them first, get an actual person, and then make whatever arrangements necessary to get it done. Ive done it before with those guys and they didn't seem to mind. I came away with the opinion Ive just outlined.

Im waiting right now for a couple of plants from the Violet Barn. I have already been waiting two weeks and they're not shipped yet. Ill take Selective Gardener's timeline over that every day!