Oh it's gorgeous, Catspa! Isn't this the one Ingrid has coming from Burlington this fall? I hope so. It is indeed prettier than Iceberg, IMHO. There are Icebergs everywhere here in So CA. Every parking lot and business landscape is packed with Icebergs. Surely a good rose, but I see it too much to ever want it in my garden. I didn't realize Snowbird grew so large. Probably out for me, then. Too bad, I'd like it for cutting. Lisa

Lisa is right, this beauty will arrive next month, and thank you catspat for this glorious preview. Mine will probably reach half that size but I'm fine with that since I'm on the short side myself. This rose seems to have many more petals than Iceberg, and it also looks as though it will make a good cut flower for the house. It's going to get babied to make it grow and bloom asap.

Beautiful photo of your front garden, Catspat. I've always loved white roses and when I went to the nursery to purchase one they must have had 10 pots of Iceberg. I did grow Iceberg for a few years, now replaced with another - non white - rose. I'll put Snowbird on my wish list. Gorgeous....

I think it might reasonably be kept smaller with more emphatic pruning than I do, Lisa, as it is a hybrid tea. The plants at SJHRG were mostly medium-sized, when I last saw them.

That is lovely. Per HelpMeFind, Snowbird is strongly fragrant--is that your experience, Catspat? If so, what a winner. The blooms look much fuller to me than Iceberg's, and Iceberg, to my nose, has next to no fragrance.

It is quite fragrant to me, sheba, and I haven't got the best nose. I don't have Iceberg but I do have a climber offspring of it, Lace Cascade, which has zero scent and is pretty unexciting (though serviceable) compared to Snowbird. Snowbird does have wonderfully full, old-fashioned form blossoms, all season long (doesn't skimp on the petals during hot spells).

It's beginning to sound like the perfect white rose. I hope my little band will be big and beautiful a year from now.

I think it IS the perfect white rose, to be honest. Clean foliage -- and it blooms and blooms. And while there are a ton of roses I cannot smell -- THIS one is heavily fragrant to my nose, with just a hint of musk and something like orange blossoms.

In its day, it was considered to be one of the two top white exhibition roses, and I can understand why that might be. I still can't imagine why it was more or less forgotten.

Sure, there are other white HTs, and sure, Iceberg is everywhere at least in SoCal. But I haven't yet seen any of those that are as good as this . . .

Though, 'Gloire Lyonnaise' comes close:
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.2981&tab=36

'Gloire Lyonnaise':

That photo of Snowbird in your front garden is delightful, Catspat!

I agree with all who rate it above Iceberg, which I've never found particularly disease resistant or exciting. Iceberg's blooms neither wow me with individual delicacy nor entice me with fragrance. Snowbird's full bloom with that kiss of caramel at the center is perfection! I wonder what Snowbird's health is like in blackspot territory. In general, HTs suffer in my area.

Another good, white landscape rose that I rarely see now is Margaret Merril. Very fragrant and disease resistant with gracefully ruffled blooms. She is frequently kissed by caramel, too.

Ingrid, I hope your Snowbird thrives! It will make a lovely addition to your garden of antique Chinese porcelain colors. Carol

I just followed your 'Gloire Lyonnaise' HMF link, Jeri. What an exquisite rose! It looks like this HP/HT is growing beautifully in France, Germany, Serbia, Australia, the UK and the US (California and even the Carolinas). I wonder if the public garden in Winston-Salem, NC, sprays. I seem to have become increasingly irritated by disease. The very first rating I check on HMF when considering a rose is disease resistance. Thank you for mentioning this antique treasure! Carol

Carol, we found GL in an old cemetery, and fell in love:

Oh wow! I'm glad the lady is standing in this photo because my first impression was that it was full but maybe 3 feet high.

WOW! It's huge and gorgeous!

And that's precisely why she is standing there. :-)

I purchased Snowbird from Burlington in the spring of 2021. It’s finally coming into its own this year. Never a spec of fungal disease in my SoCal garden.

It's a winner!