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I got my poncirus trifoliate today. I will grow one out for fruits and the other three cultivating for future rootstocks. Of course it was 32C today and the lovely postman left in in my cooking mail box despite the package asked not to leave it out in full sun. Wondeeing if he can read?? Wondering how long will it take to get fruits ?

Comments (21)

  • 8 years ago

    Nice. Where did you buy them? I would love to learn to graft. Have you grafted before? I cant imagine how the plants are handeled in transit.

  • 8 years ago

    I have never grafted before but really would like to learn. I found them on Ebay

  • 8 years ago

    Nice Susanne! I had no idea you could buy them on EBay!

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked Laura LaRosa (7b)
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Susanne, you might not care at all, but in case you do I can tell you your trees are trifoliate, but they are not the Flying Dragon cultivar.

  • 8 years ago

    Susanne. Trifoliata will grow faster than Flying dragon. It will be easier to graft and the advantages flying dragon will have over your trifoliata's will be 0 for what you are using your rootstocks for. Your pot size and not rootstock will determine the size of your trees. When you are ready to graft you will need to feed your rootstocks to induce growth and then graft on growing rootstock. good luck

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked poncirusguy6b452xx
  • 8 years ago

    Ebay is a lot of hit and miss especially with plants. Your plants do look arrived in good condition. It also looks like you potted them up. Looking quite good. Any chance you can post the link to the listing on ebay or the seller?

  • 8 years ago

    Yes I know this is not flying dragon but poncirus trifoliate (Japanese bitter orange). Steve I still have to figure out how to go with grafting and think it will be a lot of failure along the road.

    Here is the Ebay link http://www.ebay.com/itm/161342455288

    And I was happy about the transaction. Very fast too :)

  • 8 years ago

    I forgot to add that my PT is 5 years old and 7 feet tall 5 foot diameter and no Flowers yet.

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked poncirusguy6b452xx
  • 8 years ago

    Thanks Susanne. That is the seller I think is most promising. I was going to order in spring but way too many things were happening then. I wish it was cutting grown from a fruiting plant since I have the perfect spot for it in my garden.

  • 8 years ago

    Steve wow, I hoped it would flower earlier. Do you think I could put it in the ground here? Some winters are mild but we always have at least one or two really really cold snaps.

    Maybe the seller would be willing to sell cuttings if he has them. Maybe he is just producing seedlings? I sure was hoping to see fruits a bit earlier. So, on the hunt again ;)

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Poncirus, like most citrus from seed, take a while before producing flowers and fruit.

    Postmen(persons) are not obligated to follow any directions written on a package!

  • 8 years ago

    Susanne - here in England, Poncirus grows quite happily outside but takes between 12 and 15 years to start flowering.

    Cuttings are extremely reluctant to root - in fact I have tried several times but have never succeeded. The stems stay green, but that's all. I once read that cuttings from young seedlings do form roots, but any from older plants don't. That doesn't help if you're trying to propagate to get fruiting plants and probably explains why I have never seen fruiting plants for sale here in the UK.

    Of course, in a proper citrus climate seedlings do mature faster, so perhaps fruiting Poncirus are sometimes available in the US? Anyone ever seen any for sale?

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked citrange2
  • 8 years ago

    Citrange I will try cuttings in spring and also air layering. If cuttings don't work, air layering certainly will. Only purpose would be to get more root stock. One of the trees looks a bit bigger then the others and is around three years old. Maybe if I can get them growing during winter, they will mature earlier. Worth a try I think. Wondering if I could graft a mature P. cutting onto a seedling to get earlier fruit?

  • 8 years ago

    Susanne, that should work.

    These trees are supposedly naturalized here in Virginia, having been grown here for a couple hundred years. Cant say I've ever seen one in the wild, but I guess I haven't been looking out for one either. I wonder where the best places to look would be? I would happily take mature cuttings and send them to anybody that needed some.

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked jaydub83
  • 8 years ago

    thank you jaydub. I might take you up on this offer next year :)

  • 8 years ago

    I have to find one somewhere first lol. Keeping my eyes peeled next time I'm in the woods.

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked jaydub83
  • 8 years ago

    Please do hang out in the woods more jaydub :) and let us know too. I would love to get my hands on some mature cuttings of PT.

  • 8 years ago

    citrange2, I have successfully rooted two trifoliate cuttings, which I removed from a rootstock on Meyer lemon and assume are Poncirus. Both were rooted in water. I removed the cuttings and was not sure as to what to do with them so put them in water. I kept putting off deciding what to do with them and a couple of months went by and I then I noticed roots!

  • 8 years ago

    Citrange: good info. And after reading it I am even more curious about trying PT cuttings though. May be it will end up being a failure. Certain plants are notoriously hard to root. For some even air layers fail for me.

  • 8 years ago

    Citrange, thank you for the information.

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked Vladimir (Zone 5b Massachusetts)