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successes and failures?

I've never had any heucheras, tiarellas, or heucherellas, but am considering trying some next year. Most of what I've read says that the majority of the modern/hybrid heucheras are a waste of money...or at the very minimum that it can take a lot of trial and error to find one or two that might make it past the first year or two or three. From what I gather, in warmer climates (zones 8 and 9), tiarellas, as well as villosa and americana heucheras do well, but not heucherellas. In colder climates, all I have so far is that the self-seeding heucheras stick around, and I'm guessing it's because the seeds/seedlings keep them going. Some have had success keeping heucheras in pots, and others with digging them up and laying them on their side during our Northern winters; I've also read that they need to be divided regularly. It appears that too much moisture in the winter is what kills them up here, but I didn't read anything about trying to cut them to ground and covering with a tarp to keep them dry, and therefore don't know if that might be a good option or not.

If you guys don't mind, could you please tell me what zone you're in, which of these plants you've had successes and which failures with (please state specific names), if you grew them in pots or in the ground, if you had them in full shade or in some sun, if you gave them any special treatment at any time of the year, and how long they've lasted in your yard? Any other tips, do's and don'ts, I'm all ears.

Comments (22)

  • 8 years ago

    It does seem that gardeners either have great success or almost utter failure with these plants. I fall into the success category for the most part. I do look for Heuchera with villosa in their breeding.

    It would not be desirable to cut and cover them. They are evergreen even in my zone. In spring I just cut off any tatty leaves.

    I have Heuchera, Tiarella and Heucherella all planted in partial shade. I have found that they are happiest with an eastern exposure. The only one being testy is Heuchera 'Miracle' which is getting quite a lot of sun. Once I move it I am sure it will thrive.

    My soil is sandy loam which is their preference. They do like a moisture retentive soil that also drains well.

    The two I have had for the longest are Heuchera sanguinea and H. micrantha 'Palace Purple'. I have had them for 15 years give or take.

    I still have great fondness for H. sanguinea but it does need dividing every few years. It has lost favor in recent years because it is plain green but the flowers are red and the hummingbirds enjoy them. There are many named varieties on the market.

    H. micrantha 'Palace Purple' has been growing for years without division. Great performer.

    Heucherella 'Rosalie' has been planted since 2004 and is badly in need of division. H. 'Sweet Tea' seems to do well for most but I have not got mine planted yet.

    I have grown Tiarella wherryi for years.

    Heuchera 'Caramel' performs really well for most regardless of zone, including me.

    Very fond of Heuchera 'Kassandra', 'Venus', 'Prince of Orange'...

    It is extremely rare that I type this much (I am a super slow typist) but it is freeeezing. It hope this helps



    Kindness Matters (NE Ohio 6a) thanked peren.all Zone 5a Ontario Canada
  • 8 years ago

    Thank you both! Peren.all, you've given me several nice varieties to consider :) Thanks much for taking the time to type/share it.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Heuchera do well here for me, have had very little trouble with them and haven't paid attention to the breeding parent. In my yard it seems a dry spell doesn't hurt them. The only,problems I've had is with fall sale purchases. I've had a few fall purchases die or return so small it took three seasons to acquire the size at purchase. I'm guessing not enough good weather to establish in the fall, I avoid the sales now and plant only early in the season.

    Sherry

    Kindness Matters (NE Ohio 6a) thanked sherrygirl zone5 N il
  • 8 years ago

    Ontario 6b

    Silver Scrolls has grown well for me in lots of sun.

    Kindness Matters (NE Ohio 6a) thanked Barb Ure Drouillard 6b Canada
  • 8 years ago

    It is a beauty, thank you :)

  • 8 years ago

    Cherry Cola has also been a winner with such amazing flowers.

    Kindness Matters (NE Ohio 6a) thanked Barb Ure Drouillard 6b Canada
  • 8 years ago

    I love its color (both foliage and flowers), but wish the foliage were a bit taller.

  • 8 years ago

    Pampered, I got it in June of 2016 so it was not even a year old in this picture. Hopefully it will continue to put on size.

    Kindness Matters (NE Ohio 6a) thanked Barb Ure Drouillard 6b Canada
  • 8 years ago

    The biggest problem I've had is oriental beetles eating my plants to the ground and then them not recovering. I've lost several plants that way and they seem to prefer the red leaved ones. Didn't realize that's what they were until this year when I discovered them feasting at night.

    Kindness Matters (NE Ohio 6a) thanked whitewatervol (Z 8a/7b Upstate SC)
  • 8 years ago

    We have some insect issues here too, but probably not as bad as you do in warmer zone. I've used the Bayer 2-in-1 for the past couple of years and liked it, but I do wonder if it's affecting bees too...

  • 8 years ago

    I sprayed some but what seemed most effective was to go out at dusk and squish them or drop them into a jar of soapy water. I did this 2-3 times a night for a couple of weeks and hope reduced the damage this year significantly. That said, they still killed 4 plants before I caught them this year.

    I had never heard of oriental beetles before - similar to Japanese Beetles but they emerge a few weeks earlier and aren't as good at flying so they eat the closest thing they can find that they like. They ate all the leaves on 'Citronelle', 'Sugar Plum', 'Carnival Silver' Streak, and a Heucherella "Solar Eclipse" before I realized what was going on and went on the attack. This is the 3rd year I've had Heucheras destroyed and it took this long to figure out the cause since they only emerge at night.

    The Japanese Beetles that come a few weeks later eat leaves as well but they weren't nearly as big of a problem.



    Kindness Matters (NE Ohio 6a) thanked whitewatervol (Z 8a/7b Upstate SC)
  • 8 years ago

    I'm a fan of systemics, not sprays. Can't say for sure how effective they are, but the combination of fertilizer and insecticide did seem to do the plants well with the exception of those that got fertilizer burn thanks to me.

  • 8 years ago

    These are one of my favorite plants. I have about 28 different varieties in varying light conditions and they do really well. Great plants to add color to your garden.

    Kindness Matters (NE Ohio 6a) thanked Michelle z6a pei can
  • 8 years ago

    Ignored, I’m a sucker for buying these plants! I love them but I wish they did better for me. I’ve had success with Caramel, purple palace, beaujolais, sweet tea (heucherella) and a few others. Most will do very well for the first couple of years and then just die over the winter. This doesn’t stop me from buying more though. Tiarellas do much better but aren’t as colorful as heuchera. I’m also in NE Ohio. Just curious, where are you in Ohio?

    Kindness Matters (NE Ohio 6a) thanked carolwoh (Zone 6, Akron, OH)
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Carol, that sounds like what I was reading about them before, and is why I've been hesitant to try them, but I think that at least Caramel deserves a try.

    You might have seen me on the Hosta forum before since I "hang out" there the most, but I've changed my user name a few times (location has stayed the same though). I'm right by Brecksville. It's wonderful to meet more folks from this area!

  • 8 years ago

    In my southern locale (7a), I was almost ready to write them off as a lost cause, but then a tiarella somehow snuck into my planting cart and I tried a new location (foundation planting on north wall) and it lived. Next year (last year) I tried a heuchera 'Caramel' which is looking great along the same wall. I also (being a native plant nut) bought the species americana, and it's doing great as well.

    The soil along the foundation is behind the roof drip line and a little higher (thus drier) and seems to have been sandier than my normal clay. All these things probably have something to do with survival. Before this localation, they diminished all season and died over winter.

    Kindness Matters (NE Ohio 6a) thanked dbarron
  • 8 years ago

    The ones based off of Americana or Villosa strains seem to do better in the south.

    'Caramel' is from Villosa and has done well for me too as well as another one by the same hybridizer called 'Brownies' that is even more vigorous but not quite as pretty.

    The 'Dale's Strain' that I have in abundance (along with its seedlings) is from Americana and is so vigorous that it borders on being weedlike.

    Kindness Matters (NE Ohio 6a) thanked whitewatervol (Z 8a/7b Upstate SC)
  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    It's been 2 years since my original post, and I've not had a chance to try heuchera quite the way I thought I would have by now. Just recently got my first heucherella (Solar Eclipse) and don't have high hopes for it, but had to get it and try. Now I'm wondering about something else... Are there any heuchera/tiarella/heucherella cultivars that you've noticed are munched on less by rabbits and deer? Both have been quite a problem here in the last couple of years (especially deer), and I've had enough of them eating the hostas to the ground. Hoping that there are some heuchera etc. that are not as appealing to them!

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    I’m in zone 6. this one never gets eaten by deer Or rabbits. It doesn’t get any special treatment: planted in sandy soil, gets pummeled by the sun daily, no watering, no fertilizer. It just survives. I mean the caterpillars aren’t even thinking about eating these hardy ones here. I have my caramel, mega caramel and dolce wild berry which are all very delicate. They die if you look at them wrong. LOL



    Kindness Matters (NE Ohio 6a) thanked Chris (6a in MA)
  • 5 years ago

    Chris, LOL, it figures that more of the ones on my list would be delicate! I forgot to mention that, in addition to rabbits and deer, slugs are bad here too.

    What is the name of the one in your pic? The dark color looks like it would blend into our mulch, but I need to make a new list with any that have shown more pest resistance such as yours.

  • 5 years ago

    I’m not sure as I inherited them when I bought the house. They might be Obsidian. It’s very dark when the come out in spring.

    Kindness Matters (NE Ohio 6a) thanked Chris (6a in MA)
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