'Jeri Jennings'

It's neither an Austin or an Antique -- so I am cheating some . . . But this Paul Barden Shrub was a welcome sight on this hot, smokey day.
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jerijen
Original Author8 years agoKaren -- A friend of mine has been growing it in WI for several years. Paul wasn't sure it could take her climate, but it's been doing well.
- 8 years ago
Oh Jeri, you lovely enabler you!!! Perhaps this one will find a spot among my ever expanding Barden collection, after all.
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I send pics of the rose to my family and they all love it. My brother lives in Columbus Rose Park...one of the houses in the park and he told me about 5 deers eating his roses last night and he chase them away. Told him what I learn from all you guys is to put wired fence (around it..learn all that from this Rose Forum and still learning.
My brother said the sharpen their horns on magnolia plant. His yard is huge and all he can do is shoo them away. They ate hostas , roses and etc...
Jin
- 8 years ago
Jeri, that photo is stunning. It lulls me into believing that everything must be beautiful and peaceful there, even if only for a moment. Please stay safe, both of you and your beautiful doggies.
jerijen
Original Author8 years agoIngrid -- It IS deceptively peaceful here. The wind isn't blowing so hard now, but . . .
It's 84-85 deg. and 9% humidity. We rarely saw weather conditions like this in the hottest summers . . . back before the climate began to alter so radically.
Roses are blooming but we're seeing some firefighting aircraft overhead.
- 8 years ago
I have Jeri Jennings. I mistakenly planted it in too much shade next to two larger roses. So, it took a while (2-3 years) to get going. However, it has now climbed up to where there is way more light, and is doing fine. No problems, no spraying, just growing happily.
Jackie
- 8 years ago
I talk to Pam from Angel Nursery and we talk for a long time. She is such a wonderful person. Jeri Jennings rose is highly recommend and it does very well in FL. She has 1 left and I need more..lol
So, I am meeting her after New Year's and I am so looking forward to meet her in person. Talking about roses and organics :)
Jin
- 8 years ago
Claire I must have seen her when I visited your garden! I should have taken more pictures! You have cultivated my favorite collection, and I hope my garden will one day be as vibrant and thriving as yours is. I planted the Mock-orange you gave me among my Austin’s but I think my rose garden needs a Jeri Jennings As well ;)
- 8 years agolast modified: 8 years ago
Buff Beauty, look out! If I could cram another HM into my garden, this would probably be the one. Maybe I will order it anyway. There's always room for one more plate in the dishwasher and one more rose smashed into the garden, yes?
Claire, since our climates are fairly similar, might I ask about the remontancy on your J Jennings? And is she healthy like Paul's other (wonderful) roses?
Carol
- 8 years ago
Jeri thanks so much for posting this lovely pic of Jeri Jennings rose, when I look at it I think you must be a very special person indeed to have such a beautiful rose named for you. I love the peachy color and it looks so soft and romantic.
- 8 years ago
Dear Seeingreen...
well, I am hanging my head and red in the fact, because I must admit that my Jeri J. is not in a very good place, and she is not as happy as a rose named after a tireless champion of Old Garden Roses and mainstay of the Heritage Roses Group should be...but, I am moving her this winter to a better spot. Right now she is being leaned on by Polka (who is leaving my garden!) and being grown through and partially over by Geranium 'Orion', who has proved to be a bit of a thug here in my garden...naughty thing! So, it is really no wonder if you overlooked her...but you won't next time you visit <g>
Dear PortlandMR...from the above you will know that I am not the best to report on this roses repeatability (sp?), but...she is healthy here, and will repeat when properly taken care of I am sure...
I think you both should add her to your gardens, and then you can give more accurate reports than I can...
and Thank you P. Borden for giving us this lovely rose! You do good work!
cheers
Claire
- 8 years agolast modified: 8 years ago
Lol awww poor Polka... I don’t know Claire I think your being modest. I think all your roses are well cared for.
- 8 years ago
I may just do that, Claire. I'd like to try it, and I am a big fan of Barden roses! My Buff Beauties have taken time to settle in and flourish. Maybe JJ is similar. Carol
- 8 years ago
That's a beautiful rose. Anyone knows how it's doing in a hot and humid climate?
jerijen
Original Author8 years agoDon't have a clue, sorry. I know someone who is growing it in WI -- but not warm/humid.
- 8 years ago
What a gorgeous rose.
JBP, on helpmefind, there is a photo from Angel Gardens with a note "She does very well in hot humid Florida"
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.290020
I recently purchased a rose in great condition (1 gal.) from Angel Gardens and Pam (the owner) was also very nice to correspond with.
- 8 years ago
Agreed with Vestfl, Pam said it is best Paul Barden rose here in hot and humid FL. The Best and it grows really well.
So , Jeri, I will be having coffee with you daily when I get the rose. And talking..lol.
Top of the morning to ya young lass!
Jin
jerijen
Original Author8 years agoI'll be looking forward to it, Jin . . . And, here . . . This one's for you:

- 8 years ago
Rofl....wow.:) you really make me laugh so bad. Nothing like ending the night on a good laugh. That's good Jeri.
Thank you
Jin
- 8 years ago
Jeri, that’s a gorgeous Plumeria! I’ve never looked into what they require, but that photo makes me think I need to! Lisa
- 8 years agolast modified: 8 years ago
Lisa they smell awesome. I don't have any but if you do know anyone who has it take a branch ( put it in bucket of water) and roots will form . Then plant it in ground. Required just water and sun ( heard a lot) but very easy plant.
I am trying to get some from Hawaii. They are very pretty and smells really good.
My guide in Indonesia gave me 6 branches and I came to know I cannot bring them to States. So, I gave it away to friends in Malaysia. It grew and they showed me on video chat.i was amazed by the beauty and how easy it was to grow. It was white flowers, deep pink flowers and yellow flowers.
Jeri, yours looks beautiful.
Jin
- 8 years ago
Awww. Pam just email me. She is out of Jeri Jennings rose. She was very sure she had 1 but confirmed she is sold out so I am in waiting list.
Jin
- 8 years ago
I'm glad that JJ does well in Forida, but I am quite certain there is another of my roses that fares even better in that climate: 'Won Fang Yon'. (In case the Tea types are to your tastes)
jerijen
Original Author8 years agoPLUMERIA . . .
We have quite a number of them, because they seem to do well in our changing conditions, and they're not terribly greedy about water. Jin is right. VERY easy to propagate.
The one in the photo is one of my favorites -- though there are others with more vivid color. It has a lot of fragrance, and it's one of our best and more-continuous bloomers. Like most Plumerias, it can be ordered on line, as they're easy to ship.
This one is 'Slaughter Pink.' I bought it initially because it was imported from somewhere in Indonesia by a lady who was some sort of "shirt-tail kin" in my Slaughter Family line. But we're going to propagate it and plant it in other locations because it's so good.- 8 years ago
Does this mean they would do well in my conditions, Jeri? I’m thinking full sun on the hot slope. Thanks, Lisa
- 8 years ago
How would Mel’s Heritage do in Florida? I just had to put a plug in for Mel’s Heritage, because I happen to think it’s Paul best Rose EVER! ( at least of the ones I grow) Lisa
jerijen
Original Author8 years agoLisa -- We have a bunch of Plumerias on our South-facing hillside. Our climate used to be so gentle and fog-kissed, but the fog is gone now, and it gets blazing hot down there.
Mind, now, not Las-Vegas-Desert-Hot. I don't know how they would do in that. But through our summers now, it frequently rises into the 90's -- and occasionally the 100's -- particularly down there. And here we are in December, and it's been well into the 80's for the better part of a month. (Not today. It hit 71, and has dropped to 69.)
The only way to know for sure is to try one -- and there are a jillion on-line sources. But take a look first at this:
http://plumeria.today/category/plumeria-resources/P. 'Scott Pratt'
- 8 years ago
Nice website, very helpful and I think that Plumeria would do well here. I think my aunt might have one, less than a mile from me actually, but it’s a rather loud orange color so not my taste. At least I think it could be a Plumeria. I must compliment your “Slaughter Pink”, Jeri. Of all the ones shown through the link you provided, I don’t find any nearly as lovely as yours. Nice that it’s so fragrant, and fairly continuous blooming you say? I’m going to see if it’s available to order. I like the fact that the Plumerias have a rather open habit, providing some filtered shade without blocking the sunlight completely. Lisa
jerijen
Original Author8 years agoYes. I like them, too. Some of our oldest ones are over my head, now, so very graceful in the garden. This is a yellow one -- 'Nebel's Gold' (one of the few whose names I've not lost). It's much like "Hawaiian Yellow" but larger blooms.

Let me know if you don't find 'Slaughter Pink'. If it ever cools off here, I need to remove a couple of canes, so . . .- 8 years agolast modified: 8 years ago
Mel's Heritage is also highly recommend in FL. If Pam had JJ I was going to visit her sooner like Monday. She wants me to come there to see it. But it is climbing rose and I have wait till fence is done. I really wanted Marianne rose but Pam did not answer yet. I am not sure if it can grow in 9 b.
Won Fang Yon, I have to check it out . It has mild to no smell and I am big on scent. But I might get it later next year.
Jeri, I have bookmark Plumerias. Oh My goodness !! They look beautiful. I can imagine the scent.
Jin
- 8 years agolast modified: 8 years ago
I don’t think Marianne will do very well without a winter chill, Jin. Someone correct me if I’m wrong. I’d really love to be wrong about this, because I’d be ordering her immediately if I am. I’m glad that Mel’s Heritage is recommended for Florida. It’s truly a wonderful rose, but yes indeed you want a fence for him. He’s growing for me like nothing I’ve ever seen before. I just love it, and it’s my very favorite rose.
Those Plumerias actually look like they flourish in San Diego County. I had no idea that there’s a specialty greenhouse right near me. I didn’t fully check everything out that they had online, yet. It seems like Slaughter Pink will be no problem to find. A place in Hawaii has it(a cutting) on special right now for $10.95 and something like $10 shipping to CA. That was just the first place I checked. Of course, a cutting from yours would give it much more meaning to me. However, if you’re going to use the canes to propagate more yourself, I totally understand. It’s not about saving the $10.95, and I imagine the shipping costs would be about the same. I’m just one of those “sentimental” people, always thinking of the person that gave me the seeds, cutting, or plant whenever I tend to that particular plant. Truly no pressure, it’s obviously easily obtainable. It really is my favorite of all the ones I’ve seen so far. It caught my eye on an earlier post somewhere already, I believe. Now you’ve gone and flashed that beauty again, and reminded me. I’m really a sucker for pink, what can I say?
HA HA!!! My son just walked in and said, “What are you always finding to talk about with ‘those rose people’”? I explained that it’s mostly roses, but right now I found a beautiful Plumeria that I’d like to grow, and I wasn’t sure if they grew easily here. Imagine my surprise when he said, “Ryan (his roommate) grows some on our balcony in pots with his girlfriend. They’re her favorite flower.” Well! I guess they do just fine here, and my son agrees with both of you, Jin and Jeri. He says they smell “Awesome”. I never would have thought Brandon even knew what a Plumeria WAS! I showed him the picture of Slaughter Pink. They don’t grow that one, but I’m going to show Ryan and Ashley your Plumeria pictures next time I see them, Jeri. Now I’ll have something to talk about with them besides our cats:) Lisa
- 8 years agolast modified: 8 years ago
Lisa, I know you are right. It won't grow here. It says to zone 9b as default. I think it needs other season that we don't have here.... winter.
You sounds like me so hook to this family and as soon as I get home...you got a billion msg on email about houze or rose family my kids and hubby yelling from one room to another. Change, get some bite and drink and read my forum before doing my other chores...lol.
That is good news about Ryan and his girlfriend grows plumeria. I can't wait to hear when you show them Jeri' s photo.
Lisa, your son seems to know about your passion for roses and flowers or else he would not have known about what Ryan's girlfriend is growing. Your son is awesome :)
Jin
- 8 years agolast modified: 8 years ago
Hi Jin! Yes, he is! He’s the one who planted most of my roses for me, including Mel’s Heritage waaay up on top of my steep slope. That’s not a place I’m crazy about doing any digging, too steep and nothing to grab onto on the way down!(other than prickly roses, Ouch!)
I’m always checking this forum, too. It’s my little escape from the stresses of life. Plus, nobody else is nearly as excited about a bloom or bouquet as my rose friends here. My family says, “That’s nice” or maybe even “Oh, that’s beautiful!”, but they never ask the name of the rose or anything about it. I’ve learned so much here, too.
I don’t get any winter chill either, so some roses are just not going to do well here. It’s wonderful to have this forum, though. We still get to experience those roses through the posts and pictures of others. I’ve heard here(I think it was Sheila, maybe?) say that Paul Barden’s Marianne is a bit similar to David Austin’s Abraham Darby. It does look similar in bloom form and color to me, anyway. I do grow AD, and he sure does put out some gorgeous blooms. They’re very fragrant, too.
I’m looking forward to seeing your roses grow and bloom. Your excitement is contagious! Lisa
- 8 years agolast modified: 8 years ago
Lisa, I hope my roses will grow like everyone. I never had luck in my life but I am testing my soil, got ornaments packed away. I remembered Jeri telling me it is trial and error and don't give up. I ordered roses that grows in my climate. Looking into trellis that is 8 foot. Trying to get fence fixed that is so old , chipped and broken. Getting at least 20 Da's. Studying the sun, shade and all but it also changes with seasons. Trying to make it perfect so that nothing will wilted and die. Trying to learned how to prune and what to do with octopus arms...so much reading but doing it properly or at that time, I will be cracking my head. Learning so much from all if you guys and one day, just one day, I will try to do seeds and propagate. Learning which companion plants go with what it which grows in my climate. This month I have to go and get water drip for roses. Learning how to put them together. Let me see..which roses to grow big ones back smaller front. Hmmm what else Doing colour planning in yard what colour goes where which compliments which ..hmm. try to teach my dog to stay out of my area and not to pee...lol. Trust me I got miles to go. I hope my excitement is not contagious to me it is scary Bec I feel like I am not ready but what the heck I am going for it. What borders to do..brick or logs... decisions and more.soil mix is another I have picked up going to agriculture extension office sending soil for testing. Learning about bugs , good bugs and bad bugs. What to do if roses are infected.Trying to learned the difference btw a basil to a sucker.
I hope I have a green thumb. I have ordered about 12 roses from Antique Emporium and trust me they want to send it in days but I pick end of January. Like I am not ready.
I am very , very excited and at the same time very nervous. Phew, I hope I can show my back yard when and if they bloom by Summer or Fall. I hope I have blooms and blooms of roses. I will be dancing.
I am so looking forward to my roses. And Mel's Heritage is another one . I love OGR and Antique roses, China's, teas.
Jin
PS : Thanks for all your encouragement, support and educating me . Every one has been so generous, understanding , patience and kind.
- 8 years ago
I forgot studying the spacing of each rose the height and all details is another I am charting on my book and later applying in my backyard.
I took down 1 tree and it cost 3000 and it is oak tree which is about 50 feet maybe higher. It drops Acorn like billions in my pool. I am glad it is gone and open up space and 100 per cent sun. My arms used to get sore daily scooping baskets and baskets of acorns. Sometimes 2 times a day.
Jin
- 8 years ago
Sounds like you have a lot of the book knowledge and you will be bypassing quite a lot of beginner mistakes starting with the right roses and getting your soil tested! I can’t wait to see your blooms! Do you belong to a local rose society?
- 8 years agolast modified: 8 years ago
No, I will be joining Central Florida Rose Society bec at least I can attend locally here and meet other rosarian. They are affiliated with ARS. Meeting is every first Thursday of the month but I have been missing it last couple of months.
I did not consider about spacing at all until I read Bart' s thread sorting big teas and small.
From Cori Ann who designed her garden and Sheila who showed how she did her teas and matching companions, how she did her garden design and she did it brilliantly with love. I think she must be a designer , a rose Whisperer . I can go on and on ....Lisa, Marlorena, Carol, Chris, Nik , Jeri, Virginia, Ingrid etc....Hey, I remembered ball the names...lol
They inspired me and I end up googling and reading more. I am all game if anyone wants to suggest a book.
I am sure I am going to make tons of mistakes but I got started the ball rolling and we will see how it rolls. It will be challenging I am sure since I just got into it but I know all you guys will guide me and corrected my mistakes.
I just cracked my transmission on a 2014 car some valve broke and pressure build up and crack the casting . That a rebuild is $3000 a and a new is $5000. So, I pick a rebuild, now maybe I have to do fence (DIY). That was my fence money i budget for January. On a rental now till I get my car back in a week's time (hopefully).
Thank goodness I did my Christmas shopping.
Jin
- 8 years ago
The best of all I get to know each one of you . All you guys are strong individuals and with character. It is as if I know you and I hope vise versa.i hope one day we might ran into each other at conventions, rose society or something. That will be so cool.
Jin
- 8 years ago
I know how you feel. I got to go to a rare rose auction near me a little while back. It was my first time ever actually meeting people crazy about roses. It was so fun. Hearing them pronounce the names of old roses was great, too. I found I had been saying many of them wrong for years because I had never heard them said out loud before, only read them here. Lisa
jerijen
Original Author8 years agoOnce, at the Huntington, we attended a class on "How To Pronounce French Rose Names." What an eye-opener!
- 8 years ago
I’ll bet it was, Jer! Too bad I’ve already forgotten most of the more complicated pronunciations. The one that I DO remember, and surprised me, was ‘Rose de Rescht’. I had no idea the “T” was silent and it rhymes with “fresh”. Lisa
jerijen
Original Author8 years agoAnd that one gets even more interesting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasht
"Rasht (Persian: رشت Rašt; Gilaki: Rəsht; also Romanized as Resht and Rast, and often spelt Recht in French and older German manuscripts)[2] is the capital city of Gilan Province, Iran. As of the 24 October 2011 census, its population was 639,951.[1]Rasht is the largest city on Iran's Caspian Sea coast. It is a major trade center between Caucasia, Russia and Iran using the port of Bandar-e Anzali. Rasht is also a major tourist center with the resort of Masouleh in the adjacent mountains and the beaches of Caspian as some of the major attractions.
Historically, Rasht was a major transport and business center which connected Iran to Russia and Europe, and because of this was known as the "Gate of Europe". The city has a history that goes back to the 13th century but its modern history dates back to the Safavid era during which Rasht was a major silk trade center with numerous textile workshops."
So, I'm not really certain that dropping that final consonant would be correct for Rescht, or Rasht -- as this is not a French word, but the name of a Persian city.
- 8 years ago
Oh i know what you meant omg I can't pronounced a lot think I do. Have a kid here who study French in high school. Trust me I always tell him he is not speaking French. He ask me say something in English and used translator. So he tells the phone in French and proves me wrong Bec it did translate to English perfectly but his voice so flat and monotonous...so I lost a bet he earned 100 dollars from me. Now, he tells me french roses and I still gives him a look like' are you sure 'and he laughs at me...lol
Got a feeling a trip to France will be I don't know mom how to say this....or I will try.
Jin
- 8 years agolast modified: 8 years ago
Those kids are little “know it alls” at that age, aren’t they Jin?Gotta love ‘em!
Oh Jeri, you’re telling me the one name I managed to remember is incorrect? That’s just my luck:) Super interesting information. Thank you. So should it be pronounced like “fresh”, but WITH the “t” sound at the end? I’m determined to get this one right. I’ve always admired ‘Rose de Rescht’ on this forum, and I was drawn to it immediately at the silent auction. I saw it from across the room and made a beeline for it, without having any idea what it was. When I saw the ID I thought, “Why don’t I have ‘Rose de Rescht’, already? I know I wanted it before now.” I placed my bid, and searched it when I returned home that night. Sure enough, I had started a thread on this forum a year or two earlier asking about it, and how it might fare here. I don’t remember anymore why ‘Rose de Rescht’ dropped off my radar. Needless to say, my bid didn’t win. It was a darling rose. Lisa
- 8 years ago
I keep thinking that rose, Rosa de Rescht, looks beautiful. Why I did not order?
I look at my invoice.....omg .. no way. I totally forgot ...I did order..lol
jin
- 4 years ago
Hi everyone! I haven’t seen any posts from any of the people on this thread in forever.
@jerijen you haven’t posted in forever!

Claire8WA