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Please help save my Meyers

8 years ago

Guys, I’m really worried that my Meyer lemon won’t make it through the winter.

These were taken today

http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/5019415/branch-dieback-on-meyer

The link is a post with pictures of the poor tree’s demise over the last six months. Since then, it’s lost more leaves and the damaged ones keep getting worse. I originally thought it didn’t do well because of soggy soil and too large a pot. Then I thought it was because my MIL kept watering it everyday. Then I thought it was recovering. Then I thought maybe it was too cold near the drafty window. Now I’m thinking spider mites.

I ossaionaly see some tiny webs, that look finer than spider webs, more often I see things floating or hanging, caught in invisible webbing. The backs of the leaves are a gritty surface and it kind of sparkles in the light. Today noticed some tiny spots on the back of the leaves. You can almost so the spots and shininess below. (I see these occasional webs on most of my trees, but my three Meyers are the only ones exhibiting health problems).

I found scale insects on my other 2 Meyer cuttings over the last four months (maybe about 2 dozen total, it’s always 2 or 3 at a time. I started periodically wiping down the leaves with a qtip dipped in alcohol for all of my plants. I turn a movie on and spend a few hours cleaning leaves.

I just purchased a new bottle of neem and HO. Any suggestions for how best to alternate, neem ho, and alcohol to keep the spider mites and scale at bay?

None of my trees are thrilled about being inside. My ST and Key lime keep losing leaves, but have new growth at the same time. My Persian lime has plenty of new growth. The NZ Lemonade is still losing its old leaves, but is covered in blossoms and new growth nodes. The two mandarins lose leaves ossacionally, but are mostly fine, no new growth. But the Meyers are getting worse consistently.

I was hoping my ladybug friends would take care of the insects.

Here’s some bullet points:

Its it a quick draining soil and it dries between waterings.

I water with diluted foliage pro and a splash of vinegar.

It’s in the same window as last year where it did well.

About once every ten days or so, I put it in the sink and thoroughly water it, to make sure there’s no salt build up and clean the leaves.

We have very hard water but no softener.

My issues are twofold:

1) Improving the overal health of my Meyers

2) Battling my mild inspect issues


Please help saving my babies.

Comments (11)

  • 8 years ago

    You are "flushing" the soil to remove the soluble salts, but your using hard water to do the flushing. Change to rain water, or you can also melt snow water, or buy good clean clear water from the supermarket.

  • 8 years ago

    That is a valid point and I’m a little embarrassed to admit that I thought I was flushing to keep the fertilizer from building up. It hasn’t been raining around here much at all, but I recently switched to using filter water to water my plants. Don’t know if that will make a difference. I just might go collect some snow next time I take the dog, but there’s not much snow here either.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I would remove the trees from the clay pots altogether. It looks like the salt is accumulating on the sides. Plastic would be a better choice long term and add extra holes at the bottom for better drainage. Um, what kind of soil are your trees in?

  • 8 years ago

    Are you guys thinking that the current leaf deterioration is caused by mineral build up in the soil?

    They are in a fast draining peat mixture currently. It dries out pretty quickly, even during the winter.

    I wiped down all but two trees with alcohol last night, every leaf individually. I’m going to finish the last two today and then follow up with HO to try an keep the bugs at bay, but my Meyers are so pathetic looking.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Peat retains water so a lot of people don't like it for that reason. I put 10 bags of peat in my garden one year because I had clay soil. I read peat would break it up. Ten bags was over kill. Whenever it rained, it was like walking on a wet sponge. Check your roots to see how they look and how wet it really is at the bottom. Citrus do not like soggy soil. Winter is the hardest time to combat that. What mix are you using for your trees?

  • 8 years ago

    The first year I had my first lemon, I didn’t know anything and I put it in garden soil and a giant pot. It would be super heavy from all the moisture in the soil. Amazingly, it did fine for nearly a year until my MIL began watering it everyday, then I had serious root rot. The roots are still recovering. I moved it to a small put to minimize excess soil and moisture. The mix it is in now drains really well (Epsoma cactus mix with lots of extra perlite). I can tell by how heavy the pot is that it’s bone dry within a few days.

    The leaf damage and loss I’m seeing now is not the same as from overwatering. The leaves are not curling or turning yellow. They are turning brown and crispy starting from the edges and working it’s way to the top of the leaf.

  • 8 years ago

    The weight of a pot is a good method to determine when to water. I use a pot's weight all the time to make such decisions. Your tree has classic high soluble salt build up symptoms. Depending on how many trees you have to water, collecting rain water from the roof down spout, can give an ample supply with each good shower..

  • 8 years ago

    I’m not disputing that it is likely mineral buildup. Because it looks like feetizlier burn to me. (I’m a bit annoyed that it didn’t occur to me earlier) I just think it’s weird that none of my other plants seem to care. They are all incredibly healthy. I’ll try to use snow/rain water and I also have a bottle is distilled water and see if that helps.

  • 8 years ago

    Perhaps your plants differ in their tolerance for salt.

  • 8 years ago

    My first Meyer thrived when it was in heavy clay soil, a large pot, drafty window and the same well water I’m using now. I repot it in quick draining soil, an appropriate size pot and it’s falling apart. I’m going to consistently water with rain/snow and see if that makes a difference. Should I halt the fertilizer?