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Hoteko

8 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago

This is the bean I'll be concentrating on this year. This was given to me by Idig memember "Cornish woman"

this bean was a mutant found in her bean patch. She named it Hoteko after her maiden name. I don't know how many people she sent Seed to, but the only person I shared Seed with was a lady named Laurene who lived in Martha's Vineyard.

I don't know much about it, so this will be a fun experience for me.

I see no mention of this bean on the internet, but I'm not great at researching anymore.

I have a difficult time with visual details, but the wife says it's cream colored and the darker areas are brownish red.

Comments (24)

  • 8 years ago

    Does it stay true to form when grown out? looks like an interesting experiment. Here's hoping I'm not high jacking your thread HMK :). The forum is pretty slow right now but would love to hear others experiences with this sort of thing.

    I found a variant in Red Eye Fall when I grew them, never did get around to growing it so I don't know what it might produce, if I did and they stayed true to this color I thought of naming them Rouge or maybe Bloodshot would be a fitting name LOL..


    The only other time I had something different turn up in all the years I have grown beans was I found a pink seed in a pod of Mr. Tung's, not a great picture this lone seed was really pink :(. Nothing like Mr. Tung's, as you can see, the seed coat color is totally different.



    Mr. Tung ...........................................Pod from pink seed

    It kept evolving, the last time I grew it and I was growing these in isolation, it produced this seed completely different again although the pod was the same shape it had more color. The pods were shiny and hard, totally useless as a snap bean. but the seed was pretty with the pink splashes.


    Totally different from the original Mr. Tung seed, don't know what would have happened if I had kept on growing it.


    Annette










  • 8 years ago
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    Annette,

    Hijack all you like. We talking beans girl!!!!

    that is so awesome! Very pretty beans! Bloodshot would indeed be a good name!

    do you still have the pink bean from Mr. Tung? That one needs growing too!


    If you are taking opinions on what to call the bottom one, I vote Pink Cashmere

  • 8 years ago

    I forgot to post a picture of the second year I grew the Mr. Tung mutation, the freshly shelled seed was a pale green no markings, maturing to brown, the dried seed color was a little fatter and a slightly different shade of brown than the original Mr.Tung.

    This is the seed that produced the pod with the more vivid markings.


    Annette



  • 8 years ago

    HMK it was the pink bean I grew, it was the one and only. I don't even know if I still have these I could have tossed them.


  • 8 years ago

    Amazing!

  • 8 years ago

    Remy is out Red Eye Fall, so I found another to peak my interest. Tennessee Green Pod

  • 8 years ago

    The Tennessee Green Pod is a snap bean that dates to the 19 century, altho supposedly commercially introduced in 1904. It is a semi-flat variety with a shape in between a Romano and a standard snap bean. Flavor is one of the closest to a pole bean of any bush bean. Not a great producer by modern standards but still grown for flavor.

  • 8 years ago

    @farmerdill hey, did you used to post as farmerdilla?

  • 8 years ago

    Once upon a time , yes.

  • 8 years ago

    Awesome!!! So happy to see you again. I was gone for several years.

  • 8 years ago

    I really like this thread :). Annette and hairy those pictures are really cool.

  • 8 years ago

    I forgot about this one, when I grew Logan's Giant for the first time with this seed....

    Half the seed collected was the same but half was black...



    I read somewhere I think on this forum that there's also a black Logan Giant. Is this one of those varieties that produces two different seed coat colors like this one...

    Ukrainian Comrades


    Then there's this crazy mixed up bean no-one has been able to sort out...

    Tennessee Greasy Mix

    Every time I grow this one I get different colored seed coat colors even different from the ones above, and different colored pods.

    Annette

  • 8 years ago
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    HMK your bean above is it a pole or bush variety? the seed coat color and pattern looks similar to Annie Jackson which is a pole bean originally from Russia, but then again there are so many different varieties that have the same seed coat color and pattern :).

    Annie Jackson(Google).............Yours

    Annette

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    It's a Pole bean. I just got fresh seed too. My friend that gifted it to me sent me several varieties to try. I have sent her an email because she has them labeled Osterreich now. I'm hoping to find out more about it.

    Annette, that bean sure looks the same as best as I can tell.

  • 8 years ago

    Annette,

    It might be good to grow them both at the same time as they do look awful alike. My friend can't tell me much about them other than she found them growing in her bean patch and just kept growing them.

  • 8 years ago

    Hairymooseknuckles, you know, those beans looked familiar to me, but I couldn't recall when or where I'd seed something like them. Today I received a sheet from the Seed Savers Exchange, listing beans I offered through them from 1985 through 1989. Money Bean was listed in there. That's it! That bean looked exactly like the beans you're asking about! I received the seed from a SSE member in Massachusetts, in 1985 and apparently, lost the seed when I moved my family to Mexico (1988).

    Also, eBay has a listing for a Red and White Fall bean, which looks just like it. They're down to their last sample, as I write this. Here's a screen shot.

  • 8 years ago

    More to compare with, look at pea beans. One site give this description...

    Another heirloom
    Bean, the Pea Bean has a striking brown and white colour pattern like
    the Orca Bean. This is a bean that has a long 400 year history in the
    UK, and although it was almost lost to cultivation for a long period,
    surviving only in out of the way places and gardens it is now becoming
    available again. It is a climbing French Bean that can be harvested as
    green beans when very young and tender like French beans, or they can be
    left on the plant until the pods and beans are dry. These can then be
    shelled to reveal the quite fascinating beans that can be kept dried.



  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    @Macmex, @Aftermidnight

    Just for fun, I ordered that bean off EBay so I could compare. You guys are killing me! What I don't need is another bean. With that being said, I've been looking for Red Eye Fall and the same fellow on eBay had it too, so guess what I did?

  • 8 years ago

    You ordered them, didn't you?

  • 8 years ago

    Bluelacedredhead,


    I did!

  • 8 years ago

    The eBay seeds are indeed different from mine. I will get a picture of the two for comparison. I asked the eBay seller for all the info he could provide and his answer was he got them from a seed trade and they were found in a small shop in Turkey. That's about all he could tell me. They are simply called Red and White Pole Bean.

  • 8 years ago

    As promised here is a comparison picture. The top bean is the eBay bean the bottom one is the one I call Hoteko. As you can see, there is a difference. However, I will attempt a grow out of each.


  • 8 years ago

    I have 2 Hoteko beans off to the races!

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