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Queen or Monarch Chrysalis?

8 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago

I found this chrysalis attached to a freeze killed banana leaf last week while cleaning up the garden. I have a few questions:

1) Is it a Queen or Monarch chrysalis? I have both butterflies though many more Monarchs than Queens. Unless I have one chrysalis of each side-by-side where I can see the size difference, I can't tell.

2) Did the freeze kill the butterfly inside? It doesn't appear to be getting any bigger.

3) How long does it normally take to go from chrysalis to butterfly?

Thanks!

Rhonda

Comments (10)

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Thanks Susan! I can identify the butterflies and cats easily, I was having trouble with the chrysalis. But, based on the pic in the link you provided I'd say its a monarch: more vibrant green and more gold around the black banding at the top.

    I'll let you know the status of the chrysalis in a week.Thanks again!

    Rhonda

  • 8 years ago

    I had the same question as Rhonda. Unfortunately, the link to the butterfly ranch doesn't tell us the size of Queen and Monarch chrysalises. It just shows that there is a difference. I have both in my yard too, and today found a chrysalis. It is just right at 1" long. Which species is it?

    Rhonda thanked Jean (Dallas 8a)
  • 8 years ago

    As Rhonda mentioned above, unless they're side by side, I wouldn't be able to tell:

    (3 Monarchs, left; 2 Queens, right) ^^ These are from my most recent brood.

    Because I've had Monarch chrysalises on the smallish side (where I didn't think a butterfly could emerge, but did), I don't know that a 1" chrysalis = Queen.

    I guess we'll know in a week or two. Please share once your critter emerges.


    Rhonda: what did yours end up being?






    Rhonda thanked javiwa
  • 8 years ago

    Thanks! What are the lengths of the five you have there?

    Rhonda thanked Jean (Dallas 8a)
  • 8 years ago

    Jean: I can't measure the Monarchs as they all JUST eclosed pre-dawn -- 8 new butterflies are drying their wings as I type. :)


    The Queen chrysalises pictured above are in the same enclosure, so I don't want to disturb the newly emerged Monarchs. However, the length/size of my final Queen chrysalis (formed yesterday) is typical of the others, IIRC; and it's measuring just shy of 3/4" (excluding the cremaster):




    HTH


    Later today, after the Monarchs have taken flight, I'm happy to measure whatever Monarch chrysalises might be left, just to compare.

    Rhonda thanked javiwa
  • 8 years ago

    Thanks for the pics Javi! When I went out a few days later to check on that chrysalis, it was entirely gone. Probably lizards :(


  • 8 years ago

    Awww, Rhonda. That's a shame.

  • 8 years ago

    Thanks, Rhonda! Our one chrysalis eclipsed the day after I last posted here. My husband happened to be walking by the fern from which the chrysalis was attached and actually saw a Monarch drying its wings. How cool is that!

  • 8 years ago

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