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Question about growing Moonflower, Cardinal Flower from Seed

Has anyone had success growing Cardinal Flower from seed? And if so, did you grow indoors or outdoors. Would appreciate any tips too.

As for Moonflowers. Uh! I have tried to grow them from seed every year. I've soaked them and nicked them, and they haven't grow much at all. I have been buying them already grown from my flower farm, but they still don't start flowering until mid to end of summer (usually the latter). Is that normal? Any tips growing from seed? Thank you in advance!

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