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Grow List 2018

Starting a list of planned plantings this year. I'm starting with peas. May come back and do a post for beans. I had a major bean failure with the beans i like the most in 2017, so that stunk. Feel free to jump in with your lists as well.


So here is my tentative pea growing list. Space is of concern so i figured i can reasonably plant 10-12 varieties. But looks like i'm pushing that to 14. The rest will not be grown unless i have room. They are more or less in preferential order by priority. Since i do not have many varieties with highly wrinkled seeds, and since highly wrinkled seeds corelate to one form of sugar genes i have separated out only the most highly wrinkled for three populations.


One is from the unknowns that got all mixed up when sorting last fall. These could be anything really, but probably have some Opal Creek and some snap peas as those have generally had the most white and wrinkled seeds. Then i separated out the population i have been calling "Joseph's yellows" into basically highly wrinkled seeds, snap shaped seeds (bullet shaped and flat seeds), and the rest. I am planning on only planting the highly wrinkled seeds and am hoping for some really good yellow snow peas. Good Yellow snap peas would be fine as well and any yellow snap peas from this population are bound to be better than Opal Creek. Then i also did the same with the "purples", a population that is mostly Sugar Magnolia, some purple-pod parsley, some residual Midnight Snow (bred by Dan Quickert of Purplepeas.net), and some potential mixed in red-podded peas or partially-red podded peas from mis-identification. These had very few snap shaped seeds so i only really separated into most-wrinkled seeds and others. I'm actually hoping some of these are Midnight Snow. I'm also hoping to recover only hyper-tendrilled plants for those that are Sugar Magnolia as my original population had all types. But regardless i figure the most wrinkled seeded ones might taste the best. So seems like a good idea. Trying to grow so many pea varieties with limited space is tough, so just have to prioritize this year. Last year was a good year for seed multiplication.


Nap Gene (potential open keel trait)*

Wrinkled Seeds (selected from unknowns)*

Biskopen's Hybrids*

Purple Passion hybrid*

Joseph's Red-Podded*

Josdeph's Yellow-Podded (most wrinkled seeds)*

Purples (most wrinkled seeds)*

Joni's Taxi*

Jupiter*

Heavily-Branched*

Orange-Pod*

Mighty Midget*

Large Podded*

True Mummy's (including a purple-pod crown pea, and a red-seed crown pea)*



Delta Dusk

Heather

unknown mottled (maple seed coat)

orange coteleydons

Pink Flowered Yellow Snow (golden sweet? from ethin)

Triple Treat

[s]Dwarf Gray Sugar[/s]

[s]Biskopen's[/s]

[s]purple passion[/s]

Comments (7)

  • 8 years ago

    So i planted most of my peas today direct seeded. Just planted, did not water.

    If weather is good i will finish planting them tomorrow. Looks like i might be able to squeeze in a few more depending.

    I still need to plant the Nap Gene (potential open keel trait)* one. And i might be able to plant both Templeton's Delta Dusk and Heather maybe. I might also try to squeeze in those orc gene peas (orange cotyledons) that may have higher beta carotene. And that's basically it. Room for two more for sure, room for 4-5 more max.

    I planted these ones today shortest to tallest:
    Super Dwarf:
    Mighty Midget
    Orange-pod
    Short-ish:
    "Joseph's" Red Snap (last year my earliest variety other than super dwarfs) (perhaps it is time to rename this as it's not really Joseph's. only descended from his original work and highly selected by me for good red color. But i'm lazy so that is still my current unofficial name).

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    Medium:
    Large Podded
    Wrinkled Seeds (selected from unknowns)
    Purple Passion hybrid*
    "Joseph's" Yellow-Podded (most wrinkled seeds)(perhaps it is time to rename this as it's not really Joseph's. only descended from his original work. But I'm lazy so that is still my current unofficial name).
    Jupiter
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    TALL:
    Joni's Taxi
    Purples (most wrinkled seeds)
    True Mummys
    Biskopens Hybrids
    Heavily-Branched

  • 8 years ago

    Ok i finished planting peas this morning. Finished with Nap gene, 'Canoe', 'Delta Dusk', and 'Heather'.

  • 8 years ago

    Small scale here (Va) :

    "Frosty" peas to be planted as soon as the soil is warmed up, too cold here, hope to plant next week if it doesn't snow again, it might.

    "Strike" bush snap/beans, to be planted around May 10th or so, hopefully it will be warmer here by then. Winter hangs on.....

  • 8 years ago

    Yep. That post was all about peas. If you like snap peas and want to try something new i recommend the purple podded Sugar Magnolia bred by the great Dr. Alan Kapuler of Oregon (Peace Seeds).

    I can add some photos if you want of my peas (if i can find them). But yeah i'm using the best i can find to breed even more interesting peas. I have an idea for a pea that produces snap peas all in a bunch, and would be even cooler if they had purple pods, but that requires combining at least 4 recessive genes without the purple genes and 3 more co-dominant genes if it does! So that project will take awhile, though last year i had a partially purple pea that had the pods in clumps. I'll try to find that photo.

    In general i have had trouble growing most varieties of snap peas here. Not sure why. Perhaps just not adapted to my climate. Amish Snap is one that did the worst three years in a row. But i haven't given up yet on them, just had other peas that had my attention first. But it seems most people like snap peas the most so i figure i might as well start breeding those.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Very interesting! Now that I think about it, it seems to me that peas were often used in teaching about genetics! Mendel! With snap peas I can eat the whole thing, but still don't get that many servings. I do sweet peas and favas as well. I have to grow them all fall through winter, and sometimes the first peas I sow don't make it. Below are "Sugar Daddy" sweet peas and "Vroma" fava beans.  I now have Super Magnolia on my wish list, but I'm reading they grow 7 feet! I usually grow short ones since I grow in containers

  • 8 years ago

    I won't be growing peas this year and not as many beans as I have in the past but this is what I have planned so far...

    Nuna (commercial bush)

    Cherokee Trail of Tears (white seeded)

    Herrenbohali

    Sarah's Old Fashioned Black

    Emelia's Italian

    Barksdale

    Buenos Aires Roja

    Seneca Speckled Egg

    Breck's Italian

    Juanita Smith

    If I get Piekny Jas in time this is the runner I'll be growing this year, if not it will be my favorite Aeron Purple Star.

    The other one is Ralph's, fingers crossed on this one.


    Annette

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