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Which mandarin?

8 years ago

You all knew this dilemma was coming, right? I went to two nurseries, where they each had about ten varieties of mandarins, and sadly, when asked which did really well in our area, they replied saying "we only stock the ones that do well here".

I am looking for a sweet, maybe slightly tangy mandarin, seedless would be nice. We have mostly cool nights all year, a couple weeks of highs over 90, and a couple weeks of frost in Jan-Feb. Some of the tags say self-pollinating but having a couple would make the trees more productive. Do I need a self pollinating one? (Are some not?) Will my other citrus contribute to the pollination?

They had: Dancy, Gold Nugget, Murcott, California Honey, Kinnow, Pixie, Algerian, Satsuma, Page, Nova and Minneola that I can recall.

Cast your votes :) (aka HELP!!)

KC

Comments (18)

  • 8 years ago

    You can grow practically any citrus your heart desires in that environment. Most trees are self pollinating. I know the Minneola is not. I suggest you research each variety. They probably are all very good tasting, but some are more seedy than others and may not be as easy to peel. Keep in mind the size at maturity too so be sure to check and see if it is a dwarf, semi-dwarf or standard if you are planting in ground.

    Personally, I have a Gold Nugget and and 4 Owari Satumas. Minneola's taste great, but again, a pollinator is recommended, but not required from what I have read. I just started a thread on that a day or two ago. The other varieties I have not tasted so cannot comment on them.


  • 8 years ago
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    Get a tango, a pixie and a gold nugget, you’ll have ripe mandarins from February through June. These varieties do not need pollinators and will be seedless even in group plantings of lemons and limes.

    Evan

  • 8 years ago
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    My area has higher peaks and lower dips than the mid-peninsula, so your options are phenomenal. My reco's are based on my areas.

    Assuming that you want a peel and eat mandarin, I will eliminate the Page (since I consider it more for the tasty juice). I also do not have any experience with the Pixie, but I think they are in the stores by December [?].

    I think my goal would be high quality fruit availability over many months:

    [all low / no seeds]

    Miyagawa Satsuma or Xie Shan or China S9 [earliest three - starting early to mid November ]

    then: Okitsu Wase or Dobashi Beni [late November - December]

    Do NOT get the Owari Satsuma... it is a later maturing variety - too late in my opinion.

    One of the above will supply you through mid to late January

    next: Tango - maturing February through late March

    next: Gold Nugget: maturing March through June

    If I had to choose ONLY two, then one of the Satsumas (or Page if you want juice) and Gold Nugget.

    DONE!

  • 8 years ago
    Lol, Evan, George, so I need at least two, but ideally half a dozen, huh? The common factor between all your replies was God Nugget, so that might be the winner! Rain predicted for the rest of the week, so I have a few days to research some more. Thanks!
  • 8 years ago

    I have a gold nugget tree bc I heard such wonderful things about it! I tried some from the store and they are so delicious! I think it is what you are looking for haha. That tree hasn’t given me any grief either. Doesn’t seem to be finicky.

    kcandmilo thanked Amanda Tyner
  • 8 years ago

    Thanks, Amanda! I'll post pics when I pick it up!!

  • 8 years ago

    molewhacker I will be in the Bay Area today where can I find a Xie Shan ? I would love to bring one home today. Thanks !

    kcandmilo thanked Nick (9b) Modesto Area
  • 8 years ago

    Nick, there were none in Summerwinds or Yamagamis. So you can skip those.

    KC

  • 8 years ago

    ok thanks I'm not familiar with the bay area nurseries I started gardening when I moved to the cenrtal valley lol.

  • 8 years ago

    This is frustrating calling these nurseries its like the deer in the headlights look when asking about sumo, miho or xie shan. I might have to learn how to graft lol.

  • 8 years ago

    I dont know who may carry the Xie Shan. I think that you will need to graft budwood to get one. However, i did see Okitsu Wase at several Costcos.

    You may want to call / try Menlo Growers?

  • 8 years ago

    I have the Okitsu :)

  • 8 years ago
    Harris Citrus has the Xie Shan satsuma available on trifoliate rootstock or a trifoliate-cleopatra mandarin hybrid rootstock this year - I got one last week for delivery this Spring.
  • 8 years ago
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    Steve, it seems most citrus i see available here in N. CA is on either Carrizo, C35, Volk, or FD. And then the Four Winds stocks. I'd love to see them on others... but with HLB looming rootstocks will likely need updating to still orhers.

    Nick, I've read that China S9 and Miyagawa are really close to Xie Shan as far as early maturity. I am not sure how they compare in taste. But, can say that Okitsu Wase and Dobashi Beni taste very similar off my trees.

  • 8 years ago

    Page is a real winner. We have been eating them for 3 months. There were at least one hundred on my small tree. They are super tasty. The only downsides are that the skin is not super easy to peel (although it is doable) and they sometimes have one or a few seeds. The flavor more than makes up for these however.

  • 8 years ago

    Dang, I had emailed Harris a few weeks ago and they did say they'd have xie Shan, and I was checking occasionally but must have missed it.