I lost my GREY DAWN a couple yrs ago. Never really did very well. Burling did have it, but I think she told me last yr it was hard to propagate, and she wasn't sure when she would have any again... or if. GREY PEARL has done really well the last few yrs. Nice big, full blooms. I got LITTLE GREY PEARL a couple yrs ago from RVR. It's an interesting little rose. Also got ASH WEDNESDAY from them a few yrs ago as well. Hasn't bloomed yet. Been a real slow grower so far. You might take a look at STEPHEN RULO. It's a beigey-lavender rose that, for me, gets rather grey-ish at times. Gorgeous form on it too.

Thanks Beth. Hopefully the waiting list will come through. Seems Stephen Rulo is hard to find too.

Oh yeah, I see Steve doesn't have it listed this yr. Steve Singer at Wisconsin Roses usually has it. I bet if you emailed him he'd bud one for you for next fall. I got mine from him several yrs ago.

Thanks I will check with him :)