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Upper cabinets too close to adjacent window

7 years ago

I have already talked to homeowner, the cabinet maker, and the GC about this oversight. I'm really pissed at all 3 of them for not catching it sooner, but the good news is that they will do whatever it takes to solve the problem. It's an easy conversation because are all 3 of them are the same person...ME! The window was installed too close to the corner and I only have 12" to the inside of the window's rough opening. I should have had a smaller window there for proper clearances from the window trim. I just missed it, so here I am. Sheetrock and paint are done. Window trim, siding and cabinets are not done. I would prefer not to change or move the window, but I will if I can't come up with a good creative solution that doesn't look like a mistake was made!


I'm looking for suggestions (and examples) on how to redesign the uppers to deal with the problem. Let's get creative! I can build anything you can dream up.


So far, my options are...


1. REDESIGN: hold the uppers away from that corner and make some sort of corner shelf, I'm afraid this will just look weird and unbalanced.

2. AS IS: just squeeze the upper in as is. The cabinet door will be about flush with inside plane of the window frame.

2. CHANGE DEPTH: build 10" or 11" shallow uppers (yuk)

3. OPEN SHELVING: open shelving instead of upper cabinets (wife vetoed)

4. LAST RESORT: replace/move the window





Comments (26)

  • 7 years ago

    I like it. You saying just leave the upper cabinet come out flush with the window frame, right?

  • 7 years ago

    It's not planned as corner cabinet. Just a straight run.

  • 7 years ago

    First choice. 4. LAST RESORT: replace/move the window

    Second choice. Sophie's suggestion.

    Climb On thanked gthigpen
  • 7 years ago

    I don't think you can move it because it will be too close to the stove.

  • 7 years ago

    I could slide the stove down a bit, but your right, most likely I would need a smaller window.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    I would just hold it away from the wall and have equal width uppers on wither side of the sink. leave the wall space open for tile, art, pots/pan rack etc.

    Climb On thanked Sativa McGee Designs
  • 7 years ago

    Oh I like that idea too.

  • 7 years ago

    Do Sophie's idea.

    I'd also consider flipping the pantry and the fridge so you are not crossing the cooking zone every time you want something out of the fridge to prep.

    Climb On thanked cpartist
  • 7 years ago

    Oh and don't be too hard on the GC and cabinet maker. I'm sure they're doing the best they can.

    Climb On thanked cpartist
  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Reduce the width of the cabinet nearest the window by 3" and install a 3" fill between the cabinet and the wall set back to clear the window trim.

    i know it is not the architect's fault.

    Climb On thanked Mark Bischak, Architect
  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Aaaah, the joys of dimensioning windows to the centerline.

    Climb On thanked Mark Bischak, Architect
  • 7 years ago

    You said it brother - drives me nuts! I'm sure somebody likes/needs it's but not me!

  • 7 years ago

    We have bookcase at the end of our cabinet run because you can't really reach anything in the corner anyway. So you could do a shallower cabinet at the end.

    Climb On thanked cheri127
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Option #17.2 Delete the window entirely.

    It’s small, likely doesn’t have much of a view, and the cabinets would actually look better connecting the two walls together. My bet is that it looks unbalanced with the heavy tall cabinet to the left and the cooktop virtually in the corner next to the window. I’d do a deeper than standard corner cabinet there for some visual weight to balance things out. Then center the cooktop between the tall and the corner.

    Yeah, swap the fridge and pantry. Better work flow.

  • 7 years ago

    cheri127 thank you for that picture. Very helpful. May I presume you planned it that way, and weren't in the predicament I am in?

    Sophie Wheeler I see your point, but eliminating the window is definitely not an option.


  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Then do Sophies FIRST suggestion.

    Climb On thanked JAN MOYER
  • 7 years ago

    Yeah, swap the fridge and pantry. Better work flow.

    As said, we take food out of the fridge and bring it to the sink to rinse and clean it. Then we prep between sink and cooktop and the bring the food to the cooktop to cook it.

    With the fridge where you have it now, you're crossing the cooking zone to the sink. It's much easier when everything is in a "row" so you practically don't have to carry it.

    Climb On thanked cpartist
  • 7 years ago

    If do Sophie Wheeler 's suggestion, . tile around the window and eliminate the window trim (which we my wife and I do both like). Should I do the the same around the window above the sink? Wouldn't that look strange if I did the windows differently?

  • 7 years ago

    Yes we are considering swapping the fridge & pantry. We set them this way to have easier access from the living room and screen porch, but it's really not a big deal. I need to check with my electrician on how much would need to change, but it's shouldn't be a big deal. Mainly it would be just adding an outlet that isn't on a GFCI protected circuit.

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Here's a picture of the kitchen in it's current state. The fridge is a cabinet depth model.

  • 7 years ago

    You haven’t seen this in 3D perspectives, have you? That window is not going to look good. I promise you. Not unless you match it on the other side of the hood. The balance is going to be way off.

  • 7 years ago

    Reviving this thread, let’s see how long it lasts! Great advice from SW too.

  • 7 years ago

    Why is this being revived? My guess is by now the OP has solved their problem.

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    I was going to wait until I got the doors and trim done, but here you go. I did a mashup of solutions. Swapped pantry and fridge. Made the pantry a bit smaller so I could slide the range over and make room for an upper between the hood and window. Finally, we will do open shelving, to the right side of the window, into the "problem corner." Normal width window casing on both windows.








  • 7 years ago

    Instead of open shelving, we did an open cabinet in both our kitchens and I love the way it looks. I think open shelves will look nice too.