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Trying to id two possible weeds

8 years ago

Hello,

These two volunteers popped up in my mother in laws garden in Round Rock. She wants to get rid of them and I might take them depending on what they are. Both have very tiny flowers, one is yellow and the smaller is lavender. Any help on what they are would be appreciated!

Thanks - Joanna


Comments (22)

  • 8 years ago

    The yellow is horseherb.

    User thanked PKponder TX Z7B
  • 8 years ago

    I think I've identified the yellow as Calyptocarpus vialis aka Horseherb or Straggler Daisy.


  • 8 years ago
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    Haha, Thanks PKponder and Omar! :)

  • 8 years ago

    Wow, the three of us were writing the same answer at about the same time.

    Omar

  • 8 years ago

    haha

  • 8 years ago

    Does anyone grow this? LBJ says that some native centered nurseries carry it. I do have an area that gets decent sun and needs some erosion help that is pretty out of sight from the majority of the backyard. I don't want to regret it... but turning down a free plant goes against my grain. ;)

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I let horse herb grow where anything else does it, but I trim it very frequently. I have seen it for sale at some nurseries.

    Omar

    User thanked Vulture61
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    It grows wild around here. A few seeds blow in and come up in the lawn and flower beds, but it's easy to pull when it does. Some people use it for a lawn. It stays low naturally, but takes to mowing nicely. So I'd say to go for it.

    I have a photo somewhere showing it growing behind our house. When I find it I'll post it.

    User thanked roselee z8b S.W. Texas
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Roselee, I was just looking at your photo of the easement. How pretty! I'm going for it. Now if I can figure out the lavender flower... Thanks again!

    Picture of horseherb growing in easement

  • 8 years ago

    Okay good -- you found it!

  • 8 years ago

    I use it as a grass substitute because I have so much shade. The initial spring flush is already going to seed.

    User thanked PKponder TX Z7B
  • 8 years ago

    I wonder if the other is Sherardia arvensis ... or something else in the Rubiaceae family.

    User thanked User
  • 8 years ago

    Miz_G, I think you got it. Thank you! It appears to be invasive so I'll let her trash that one.

    https://www.invasiveplantatlas.org/subject.html?sub=13320

    It's a pitty, that was the one I liked the most with it's sweet little flowers. On the bright side, I'm happy to learn about horse herb and to add a new native plant to the yard.

    Thanks everyone for your help and endorsements. :)

  • 8 years ago

    Joanna, I also have that plant growing here and there in my garden but it is not invasive at all. Horse herb is way more aggressive than the plant with lavender flowers.

    Omar

    User thanked Vulture61
  • 8 years ago

    I have heard some people swear at horse herb.

  • 8 years ago

    I would be one of those.......................cannot get rid of it no matter how hard I try. It came as a gift either from the wind or a friendly bird, and has refused to leave.

  • 8 years ago
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    Horseherb is one of those plants that seems to languish where I'd like it and thrives where I don't. Stayed too small/sparse to work well as ground-cover in the total shade spot we first tried it, but has filled in nicely in other areas with a little sunlight. Always thought of it as a "shade plant", so was surprised how quickly it dominated gaura, Russian sage, and other plants when I let it expand into a sunny bed last year. I wrongly assumed it would start dying back by the August heat, but instead got more flowers and seeds than ever. The plants were not difficult to pull, but am just a bit over halfway through a second pass at removing 100 sqft or so of dense volunteers in the bed and adjacent lawn. Have never had them put out this much viable seed in partial sun or total shade locations over the years it's been growing around our lot:

    User thanked bostedo: 8a tx-bp-dfw
  • 8 years ago

    Bostedo, that picture says a 1000 (curse)words! Look at all of those seedlings. Wantonamara I bet I'd be one of them. Thanks again for everyone's input.

    I may just pass on that puppy. We just got around to landscaping our backyard after some hardscaping renovations. Lots of bare patches between plants that I bet those seedlings would enjoy too much. Omar, I might see about bringing the little lavender flower over and keep a close eye on it far from the backyard garden.

  • 8 years ago

    Both of those grow in my yard. Horseherb is everywhere. It was here when we moved here. I tried digging it out for a while, then gave up.

  • 8 years ago

    I have heard some people swear at horse herb.

    Other people swear by horseherb. I'm ripping out invasive bamboo that's crept in from a not very community-conscious neighbor, to be followed by a barrier (not my favorite way to spend the spring). Getting rid of all of it requires removing the top 6-8" of soil with a pick axe/mattock, mounding the removed soil to make way for the next section, then returning and leveling the soil. Mother Nature is filling in the bare soil with horseherb. Would I rather have beggar's lice, dandelion or wild carrot? Horseherb may be the closest thing this area has to a native groundcover. It's attractive (okay, eye of the beholder), excludes weeds and asks for very little in return.

  • 8 years ago

    Got horse herb growing in shade under my elms. Doggies love to graze on them.

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