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curbless shower with linear drain has draining problem

8 years ago

Curbless shower: draining problem

We have underfloor heating in the bathroom including the shower area. The linear drain is at a right angel to the shower fixtures and parallel to a planned glass panel that will separate the shower from the bathroom cabinets.
The Shower floor slopes slightly toward the wall opposite from the shower-faucet and away from the drain. That causes a beat of water to run along the bathtub to the wall opposite the shower fixtures and along that wall into the bathroom. Also toward the end of the drain the water does not enter the drain but runs around it and into the bathroom.
The contractor has pulled a couple of the tiles up and was thinking we may be able to insert a shallow custom made drain extension. I don't think that is possible and am wondering what the best solution to this problem would be. Thank you for your time.

I marked on the photos below how the water flows.





Comments (27)

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Sophie,,,,? Creative Tile Works?

    dragonflyr thanked Beth H. :
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    I am still constantly amazed that some "contractors" don't know that water flows downhill. I would no more tile a shower before checking the slope as I would leave my home before checking to see if I were wearing pants.


    Give the guy with no understanding of the fundamental laws of physics a chance to hillbilly his way out of this, please. We need the entertainment.

    dragonflyr thanked Joseph Corlett, LLC
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Complete Redesign and Redo. It was designed incorrectly from the start. Bad design and poor execution. What amateur designed this disaster? What idiot went ahead with that design?

    Hire better for the redo. Neither the designer nor contractor is competent here.


    https://www.ceramictilefoundation.org/homeowners-guide-to-hiring-qualified-tile-installer

    dragonflyr thanked User
  • PRO
    8 years ago
    So the entire floor slopes towards the entrance door from the bedroom? Ouch. Aside from that it looks like he destroyed what waterproofing he had when he removed the tiles. This is unfortunately a complete redo with either reframing the bathroom floor to have the correct slope or put in a curb.
    dragonflyr thanked HALLETT & Co.
  • 8 years ago

    Thank you for your suggestion. We had a meeting this morning and it was decided that they will pull up a bunch of tile and correct the slope.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    That isn’t going to do it. That is 100% water damage waiting to happen. The whole thing needs sledgehammers and start over without a tub in the wet area, and the whole room as a wet room if you are going to insist on a curbless without adequate space to do a curbless. That means getting rid of the floor mounted wood vanity that is technically in the wet zone.

    The entire thing is toast and needs to be redone as a whole.

    dragonflyr thanked User
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Did you have a knowledgeable designer or did this plan originate with you and your contractor? For me, I wouldn't have put the tub slap up against the shower area like that. It seems that everything would get wet.

    dragonflyr thanked Carolina Kitchen & Bath
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    I deleted my long response. (to much wrong here) This is simply the dreaded combination of poor design and unqualified labor. New design should be based on water & gravity. No repair will save this.

    dragonflyr thanked Creative Tile Eastern CT
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Creative Tile Eastern CT:


    Please let readers decide which of your responses are too long. I read everything you write, don't cheat me/us, please.

    dragonflyr thanked Joseph Corlett, LLC
  • 8 years ago

    I appreciate everyone's advise especially if it is lengthy.

    Sadly it is too late for a center drain. This drain is 5 foot long and should be enough to catch all the water but it would help if it were longer. Still it would not catch the water that runs along the tub and where the floor and wall meet. The problem is the floor slopes just slightly away form the drain and toward the wall. Enough to cause this mess!

    "Mortar coverage in wet area must be 95%." Are you saying between tile and floor there is not proper mortar coverage and it would be a problem even if the drain were to work?

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Yes, that's what he's saying. Look at the big gaps between the tiles in the second picture.

    dragonflyr thanked Carolina Kitchen & Bath
  • 8 years ago

    Thank you. I was thinking, perhaps when they were ripping out the tile some of that mortar came out with it.

  • 8 years ago

    My other question: Is it even possible to glue waterproofing on top of damaged waterproofing and keep the integrity intact?

  • 8 years ago

    Tearout. Redo. All.

    dragonflyr thanked User
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    I'm with Sophie and the rest: Tear it out.

    dragonflyr thanked Carolina Kitchen & Bath
  • 8 years ago

    The bathtub stone is installed on top of the tile. I am so,

    so upset about this. Who will pay for that?

  • 8 years ago

    this is a reputable contractor that did the installation.

  • 8 years ago

    Reputable does not equal competent. There is no way the floor should slope anywhere but to the drain. I mean, this is beyond amateur level since I even understand where the water would flow here.

    If the contractor is doing a lot of work for you - I'd stop it all right now.

    dragonflyr thanked tknx
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    A reputable contractor will apologize and do whatever it takes to properly and promptly correct the situation. You will now see how reputable your contractor actually is.

    dragonflyr thanked Creative Tile Eastern CT
  • 8 years ago

    thank you very much.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    If your car doesn't start, the first order of business is to check the gas.

    If your wash machine won't run, the first order of business is to see if it's plugged in.

    Before you set tile, the first order of business is to see if the water will run downhill.

    dragonflyr thanked Joseph Corlett, LLC
  • 8 years ago

    I agree. This is unbelievable.

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    I am doing a remoldel with no curb what height do I I set drain Thanks

  • 5 years ago

    Aren't you a tile pro?

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    yes but only done a couple in the last 40 years

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    Get someone who does this for a living, you apparently don't.