This is successfully posted in the clematis forum. Alpine Stolwijk Gold, Rebecca and Piilu AKA Little Duckling all grow to 5’-6’ in my garden, but most of my shorter clematis aren’t climbers, so they wouldn’t climb a fence, but instead need to grow up the center of an obelisk or sprawl.

Check out Giselle and Fleuri which should stay short, and my memory is that there are several other early, large-flowered that will stay under 6’ or so. Generally I don’t grow many of the early large flowered clematis since some have been fussy for me, but both Rebecca and Piilu have been easy. Stolwijk Gold is a no prune, early flowered plant with gold foliage that I adore.

Thank You NHBabs.

Ok I hadn't considered that some might not be climbers so thank you for pointing that out. I am looking into the two you suggested. Hmm interesting. I do grow a couple other clematis but mostly I have the problem of them being too big and rambunctious for the structures. Also I have a problem of planting two large ones together. Kind of in general have a tendency to get more plants than I really have space for.

I have an arbor with Blue Angel on one side and I just planted Jackmanii on the other. Now I am worried that is going to be too lopsided and Jackmanii might take over. Wondering if I should move the Jackmanii now, before it gets established. But then I'd need a new arbor or structure....so many decisions.

One more suggestion for you. The clematis breeder Raymond Edison has what he refers to as the Boulevard collection, which is all shorter varieties, pretty much in the 4’-6’ range. Cezanne, Samaritan Jo, and a whole flock of others are included, so if you do a web search for Boulevard clematis, you will most likely get some other suggestions.

PS - there is always a spot for another clematis . . .