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help with warm gray

8 years ago
Hi, I hope someone can please shed some light on our house paint dilemma. we like the transitional style and want to find a warm gray to use throughout the house. However, every single color I've tested so far (8 going on 9) does something completely different from what I expect. The floors are reddish oak so I know they play a role. it's a south facing room but in the pics I've attached its only under 3000K LED lights.

These are all Benjamin Moore

1) Thunder - I love this color but it's too dark, wish it was lighter

2) Wish - purplish

3) Collingwood- blueish and very cool feeling. It was the PERFECT color once it dried in the paint tray but on our walls its blue! See the pic. The wall color on the house as it is is Behr Almond Wisp.

4) Abalone - lavender/ purple

5) Cement gray - dont ask, husband insistsed we try.

I have no idea what to do. BM suggested I try Edgecomb Gray so I bought it and will be painting it on tonight but I need to get a color to my contractor by tomorrow. Please Help!!
Thank you

Comments (26)

  • 8 years ago
    here is the space but now our furniture. all the trim will be replaced and painted white as well as installing crown molding
  • 8 years ago

    Try BM Balboa Mist. It is a warm gray and it is beautiful in my south facing kitchen. Look too at other Warm grays.

  • 8 years ago
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    and try replacing your bulbs w/something in the 4000K range. you will get a lot of yellow w/those warm bulbs you have.


    Balboa mist and, Edgecomb, and Revere Pewters are favorites.

  • 8 years ago
    Threes- Thank you. Balboa Mist was another one we were interested in but it's right next to Collingwood and I'm worried that it too will turn bluish since Collingwood also turned blue.
  • 8 years ago
    Beth, Unfortunately we just had those LED lights installed so I have to find a color that works with those lights. (3000K, 530 Lumens (50-Watt incandescent flood equivalent). Also I'm sorry I'm a little unclear. If I make the light yellower does that make the Gray paint on the walls bluer/cooler? or warmer? I have zero experience in any of this by the way.

    I considered revere pewter as well but I'm also thinking that might turn green? Not a big fan of green either

    thank you!
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    look at the other pic I posted showing the same room w/three diff bulbs. The warmer bulbs will cast a yellowish tone. if you like warmer, it's fine,,,it won't make it blue. you need to pick a gray on the yellow side of the spectrum if you don't want blue.

    Try Pale Oak. but please, get some cooler bulbs (at least in the kitchen area) when you get the chance. try Costco. Nothing too cool. just a 4000-4500 should be enough to give you a nice, daylight looking light.

    both of these are Pale Oak. it's a nice neutral

    balboa has a bit more taupe coloring than the pale oak. Oak is a true warm gray.

  • 8 years ago
    Beth, thank you for your informative response about the lights! that's a beautiful color in the picture and would love to get that effect in our place. I thought that the white lights in the place (5000K) were causing the blue to come out so now we r kind of stuck with the 3000K LEDs :(
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    I was just looking at your pic of the entire room. don't forget that in addition to the 3000K lights w/the yellow hue, you also have all that oak flooring w/a yellow tone. the floor is going to reflect more yellow onto your walls.

    just try a box of the LED bulbs. you can get them in costco for less than $25 for four,,I believe. just make sure they say Natural Daylight. (you can always return them. just try them out and see what you think)

    Some other colors that go well w/oak flooring are these

    are you planning on painting any of that trim work white? the baseboards (hopefully?) window trim? doing the trim work in Simply White would lessen the yellow overload.

  • 8 years ago
    we are testing out Edgecomb Gray now and will see how it turns out. The place is currently painted Almond Wisp in Behr and BM equivalent is Cedar Key OC-16. It's not a bad color the Almond Wisp. so maybe we can play it safe and just paint the BM equivalent?
  • 8 years ago
    Beth, yes all the trim is being replaced and painted simply white and crown molding installed as well
  • 8 years ago
    Beth, is it the yellow in the floors making the blue in the paint pop out?
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    I still think Pale Oak is a better choice. Why play it safe and get the same color? lol

    Both of these are Cedar Key. it's a very pink/taupe color and w/your yellow lighting, it's going to look very pink


    can you try Pale Oak? did you see it in the Pics above? you don't like it?

    look at Cedar up on this paint chip and how is compares to Pale Oak, at the bottom.

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    yellow cancels blue. yellow and blue make green. so if something has a blue undertone, adding your yellow light may give it a green hue. I could be wrong, as I'm no pro on color effects.

    Maybe Flo or Lori will be along. they study how different wave lengths of light affect color tones.

    That's why I'm pushing for more of a neutral tone paint and a neutral light bulb Something neutral doesn't have overwhelming undertones of greens or blues or yellows.

    get a sample of the Pale Oak and Cedar if you want. try them next to each other.

    (and you know that BM colors are impossible to match. if you want the true BM actual color, you have to use their paints and tints. other places, like Behr, can get close, but it will never be an identical match)

  • 8 years ago
    So here is the picture of Edgecomb Gray (#6) on the wall. We will be going with that color for the entire house. Its light and will allow us to more freedom in decorating. All the other colors including Collingwood turned blue which I had high hopes for. You were right that the Cedar Key has too much pink and we noticed it more on the walls when we looked for it ( granted what was actually painted on the wall was Behr Almond Wisp) The Pale Oak was really pretty but I was worried it might be too light. I also looked at the white light options 4000K and we are just not a fan and prefer warmer lights.Thank you kindly for all your help !! the information you provided was very helpful.
  • 8 years ago

    Yellow and blue make green. Yellow and green make yellow-green.

  • 8 years ago

    saypoint,,yes, you're right,,,i meant to say yel/blue=green.

  • 8 years ago
    Your paint looks perfect on the tray but not on the walls because your old paint color is coming through. Primer is really, really important. combo paint/primer isn't a real thing.
  • 8 years ago
    After countless samples and thinking that we wanted to use Edgecomb Gray our contractor suggested we try revere pewter and in the end we decided to go with revere pewter. Dont ask why we didn't just try that first!. Much nicer! it's the color closest to the stairs, the middle is Edgecomb Gray. My next question is What color or shade of white should I use on the doors the trim Crown molding baseboards. I had the painter put a sample up of the super white in semi gloss but I think it's too white. We do want a nice contrast between the ceiling white and the walls but I don't want doors and trim that look like they've been painted with white out. The ceiling is painted Behr white ceiling paint. thank you
  • 8 years ago

    do the same as the ceiling paint if you like. I just use the white straight from the can. no added tint.

    or try Simply White. it's a good neutral without being blinding.

    or, White Dove

  • 8 years ago
    I love Chantilly lace as a "clean" white, but if you want something a little softer white dove is a common choice.
  • 8 years ago

    I used Cloud White throughout my last house on trim, wainscoting, everything, and it worked in all rooms with every color.

  • 8 years ago
    ok we tried the white dove and love that is softer then the super white and no so sterile looking but are worried it's a little too yellowish and over time it will just loose its crispness. is there a color that's in between the two? if that exists. than you all!!
  • 8 years ago
    Yellow isn't really an undertone of white dove, but it is a little bit brown so maybe that's what you're detecting as "dirty". Try BM Oxford White. It's a touch more gray than white dove so it will look cleaner.
  • 8 years ago
    My floors are pine and have gone somewhat yellowish (will be redone next year) and I, too, have a south facing living room. I can’t tell you how many samples I tried to get what I wanted! I thought Pale Oak came up slightly too pink for me. It’s a lovely color though and was under consideration.
    I went with BM Classic Gray and white dove trim, and I love it.... sort of an oyster color and everything seems to look good against it, but it’s just barely there colorwise, leaning towards white. I’m very pleased with it. I didn’t want to paint gray and then have it look dated if gray goes out of favor, so the Classic Gray straddled the line, it’s cool but doesn’t say GRAY. I loved it so much I used it through much of my downstairs spaces, including a very dark entry and it looks terrific there as well.
    In a bedroom south facing, we went with BM Nimbus and it reads more gray, this is a very elegant color and didn’t appear cold. My antique furniture looks gorgeous with it. Just gorgeous. I would have used this color throughout the house if I had wanted a more warm gray palette as it has more “color” in it than Classic Gray.
    I used Edgecomb in a north facing smallish bedroom with not a lot of light, and it is perfect there.... I didn’t get the purplish undertone that some complain of with this color. It’s a beautiful effect, just watch for that weird purplish thing it can do in the corners, I was lucky and it was great. I think you’ll be happy with Edgecomb, and I can suggest Classic Gray and Nimbus. I’m in the New England and that makes a difference, too! Best of luck.
  • 8 years ago
    Just to add to what I just posted.... I used BM Nimbus. Not BM Nimbus Gray, which is a totally different color!