Congrats! Looks good! I let young roses bloom but yes different opinions on that subject! Do what you feel is comfortable for you...

Nice first bloom. I like the blue larkspur in front, too. I am far too greedy to be pinching off first blooms, and my plants have never been the worse for it. Is the rose trying to commit suicide by putting out a bloom it can’t support...I don’t think so :)

Rachel,

I'm more concerned about PCoM's winter survivability this coming winter. What are your plans?

Moses

Hi Moses, My plans at this point had been to mound up some mulch or straw around the base of the rose? This particular area is protected fairly well from wind. If there were any late frosts or anything like that, I was planning to cover the entire plant at that time. That is about all I have so far. Do you have any tips that I should employ?

I suppose I should add that when researching the plant, it did say winter hardiness to zone 4. However, if there is generalized concern regarding planting younger roses in my zone in general, well, then I think I’ve messed up here....

Rachel I also have this rose. I won’t be doing anything in the way of extra protection. I’ll be able to provide somewhat of an answer unfortunately not until spring. Mine are own root and I do bury deeply.

It is sort of odd because Iwould never protect a zone4 rose. If I had fewer roses who knows. Maybe they would like some hilling up for winter but there are too many.

Congratulations on the first bloom and may you have many more to come. I never got a bloom in my PCoM's first year and it didn't survive my zone 5 winter in a protected zone 6 equivalent spot. If you're in a protected spot in zone 6 it should do OK, but your plan to mound soil around the base and maybe add some oak leaves or pine needles around it in a cage might be a good plan. I'll be interested to hear how Patty's does in zone 5. I think the listing of zone 4 is wildly optimistic for this rose, and I've found some vendors (like ahem - Jackson & Perkins) inflate the rose hardiness.

Helpmefind doesn't list a zone, but the coldest spot listed for PCoM under gardens is a zone 7a. I'd definitely plan to winter protect it, being cautious as always not to trap moisture in particularly if you're on the east coast.

Gorgeous bouquet too, Lisa. That's one of many reasons we're all clamoring for this rose, and Meilland breeds some delightful roses.

Cynthia

Should I forget to give an update on this rose please remind me in late May.

I did mention on another thread that Jump for Joy did not survive winter here. I was wrong. Just forgot to accurately mark where I placed it. It opened it’s third bloom for this year. It is however not showing the vigor of a good northern rose. Time well tell.

Thank you everyone for your input. I’m a bit nervous now, haha. I have adored looking at these pictures of PCoM you all have shared!!! It is such a gorgeous rose and the ruffles are so distinctive! If it doesn’t last through the winter, I will likely purchase again, but from our local nursery this time, and then just put it in a pot to over-so yet in the garage. Looks like it’s going to be a bit of a crapshoot at this point. I do adore this rose, and hope it makes it, though. If anyone has additional suggestions regarding winterization I’m open. Perhaps I should just avoid own-root in 6A? For those of you who do have the rose, how has it been for re-bloom for you? Also, thank you re: Larkspur, Ben. I adore those different blues, and I have this rose in a bed in front of Red Eden, along with a black, and deep red hollyhock, additional types of delphinum, Earth Angel, and Falstaff. It unintentionally became overly red, white, and blue so I think PCoM will add a bit of warmth to avoid cliché’s....

Mine have excellent rebloom, but both of them like to grow sky high! Lisa

Thanks Lisa! Hopefully it won’t grow higher than Red Eden!

Mine are grafted on Dr. Huey because I bought them locally so that could be a factor, plus the year round So. CA growth. However, I cut mine all the way back to about 8” in January and both the one bought this January and the one cut back in January are now to the top of my 6F fence. They both grow tall and narrow, so they don’t take a lot of space.

Here’s a quick picture of mine. Excuse the spent sweet peas. I know they need to go, obviously they’ve dropped enough seeds to ensure plenty for next year. It’s just been SO hot, and I can hardly stand to be out in the heat. (Any day now, I tell myself. Perhaps this photo will shame me into removing them:) Lisa

Thanks for the pic Lisa! Please don’t apologize for sweet peas, I think we all have a section or two that has been put on the back burner due to the July scorch. (If you saw my salvia you’d be horrified). It’s good to know about that growth habit, as it makes a lot of sense for the way my bush has started growing in. I thought I was doing something incorrectly with how narrow it is.....Hopefully mine won’t turn into an 8ft tall monster, but I suppose I can always prune if need be! I can’t wait for all those lovely blooms that you have! She’s just beautiful!

Rachel - no need to avoid own root roses for hardiness reasons. A lot of us in cold zones purposely choose own root roses in fact because even if the roses die down to the ground after winter your desired rose can still come back from those roots if at least root hardy. A grafted rose might get a bit of a boost for root health in its first year over own root roses, but if the rose above the graft dies over the winter all you have left is root stock (usually Dr. Huey, a dark red once bloomer). We do bury the graft at least 2" in cold zones, but in my experience that may not be enough for truly tender roses.

Your plan to retry PCoM in a pot to bring into shelter if this one doesn't survive sounds like a good idea. Where there's a will there's a way! There are tons of roses that are hardy in zone 5 and certainly zone 6 and as you want to expand your roses you can post here and folks will chime in with their experiences. They can vary regionally as well as in pockets of a given yard, so don't take someone else's experience as a given for you. Among the roses you have, Earth Angel should be hardy without any troubles, and if Red Eden and Falstaff survive fine for you there are a lot of roses you can grow that I can't. In general, most Kordes roses are hardy and quite a few Austins (the purple ones are the fussiest). Most any Easy Elegance rose or anything bred in Canada should be hardy with no trouble, and there are plenty of HTs and floribundas that are root hardy in zone 5 that aren't necessarily systematic to tell ahead of time. A lot of Meillands do well for me, just not PCoM.

Cynthia

I winter protected (for the first time) some new bands planted last fall, but I didn't see any difference in those and others that didn't get the mound of shredded leaves. I don't plan to do it again. Way too much trouble and no difference. I stay within my zone or under and let the hardiness of the rose do the work.

Rachel, I feel like I owe you a little “Thank you note”, for starting this thread. Those spent Sweet Peas had been bothering me for a month! It’s amazing what a little “photo shaming” will do! lol Sure enough, once I had posted the photo of Princess Charlene de Monaco next to those spent annuals, I ripped them right out! NOW you can see PCDM’s form better, and I feel much better, too! Lisa:)

Unfortunately the fading Agrostemma to her right, has to stay a little longer. The seeds aren’t quite ripe yet.

Thanks Rachel! Lisa

Thanks for all of your very helpful info Cynthia! This is great to know! To be honest, when I initially caught the “fever” early this year, I didn’t really even think of my area in Central Ohio as being a factor! It’s so interesting the things you don’t know, until you do :) Learning along with this process is really one of the best parts, and I am looking forward to learning what “works for me”. Biggest thing I’ve learned, so far seems to be to not completely trust advertised zone hardiness, or even the simple fact that local nurseries offer a rose for sale. Doesn’t guarantee it will do well here. Lisa-you are very welcome! You really did go and clean that right up! Haha! It looks great! I go back and forth so much with sweet peas. They are lovely, but, ugh, the clean up....Those blooms are just stunning on PCoM!