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Master bedroom, big space, indecisive

13 years ago
We have some great furniture pieces in our master bedroom, but I haven't really decorated. I'd like to have the feel/colors be metallic (silver/gold) but in more of an earthy way and not in a glam way, if that makes sense. I was thinking of doing a stencil similar to this in colors.
Stenciled Powder Bathroom · More Info
. The problem is...
1. The window behind to headboard makes it hard to just stencil that wall.
2. Where do I stencil?
3. Stencil above the chair rail or below or neither?
4. Or no stencil cause you have a way more awesome idea?
I'd love to get rid of the ceiling fan but my husband says that's not going to happen. He really really loves it and will cry if I take it away.

Comments (63)

  • 13 years ago
    this is kinda like what you mentioned "earthy metallic" ( submit for ideas)
    American Dream · More Info
  • 13 years ago
    another
    True Residence · More Info

    A SMALL WORK STATION at the foot of the bed as in the idea pic
    Mini Master · More Info

    curtain suggestion for behind the bed
    Hollywood Hills Home · More Info
  • 13 years ago
    I think the builder envisioned the bed opposite the sliders. That's the only wall sufficient for your bed and tables.Since your drapes are already done in bands, how about raising them to the ceiling and adding one more band at the bottom to bring them to the floor? I'd love to see the grasscloth carolins posted used under the chair rail and a coordinating paint with some luminescence above the rail. If you install the right light fixture you may be able to obtain some of that stencil pattern via the light reflection.
  • 13 years ago
    If you hang drapes at the window that is not centered on the wall, you can solve that problem yourself. Just center the drapes and rod. Voila. No one except you will know the window is off center unless you open the drapes enough to show it. I like the vertical strips and your choice of pillows. Ooo. And please do paint the fan blades!
  • 13 years ago
    I think Nancy Reese Redesign has the best ideas. Sounds like she knows her stuff. Does she have an idea for the off-centered window like draperies all across wall??
  • 13 years ago
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    Ideally, the bed would go on the long wall without the window, where it would look more to scale. (ktvanallen, could the tv be wall-mounted opposite the bed on the long wall?) If the bed stays where it is, ceiling to floor drapes the entire length of the wall behind the bed would be a good way of concealing the off-centered window. To give a cohesive look, the drapery at the sliders would need to also be ceiling to floor of the same fabric.
  • 13 years ago
    Wall to wall drapes seem like too much for the room. The Hollywood Hills Home posted by Anne Dee above is what I had in mind with my suggestion to hang drapes behind the bed. Centered on the bed, you have no idea whether the window behind is centered or not.
  • 13 years ago
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    Completely agree that the bed should be on the non-window wall opposite the sliding doors. Somehow, the style of the bed fills up too much of that far space under the window, because of the low ceiling. Woman to woman: Is there nothing you can do to get rid of that FAN?? it's so low! Show hubby some of the photos of the beds on here that other folks sent you, noting how nice they look without the fan. Well one has a fan, but it is much higher up.
  • 13 years ago
    I can sympathize because my husband LOVES the fan above our bed. When it is warm, he suffers without the fan going. I look forward to our next place where the ceiling is concrete and we can't install a fan. But then, I'll probably freeze when the AC gets cranked up to compensate. Not a decorating decision in some cases, a necessity.
  • 13 years ago
    If you want to keep the bed where it is at, you could cover the window with wood shudders in a dark wood and then stencil the shudders. That will give you your design element while hiding the window nicely.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Maybe an earthy glass mosaic piece?
  • 13 years ago
    I would ''hug'' the spaces on either side of the bed with wallpaper of your choice - meaning that you wallpaper the back wall but not wallpaper both the entire walls on the sides. Only to about a quarter on each side. Maybe you can move the fan further away from it's current spot. Also it might help to paint the fan the same colour as the ceiling so that it is not so obvious.
  • 13 years ago
    It feels like the horizontal and vertical lines are fighting each other....and coming to the forefront because there's little else for the eye to settle on. Definitely remove the chair rail and introduce some pattern...stencil or wallpaper are both good ideas.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Please, please, move the bed!!! It is too heavy any crowded in that spot. I would actually remove chair rail, or at least paint it wall color. I would also change the fan, to a white close to the ceiling variety with NO light. I wouldn't stencil, or attempt to "soften" the room in that manner, as the bed is such a strong masculine presence. Possibly a wall color change, keep it simple and elegant, and don't fight the bed!!! Show it to it's best advantage.
  • 13 years ago
    If you cover over the window behind the bed does this make your room to dark? If not you could cover over the window, remove the frame of the window wallpaper that wall with a textured paper and add a painting. As the room is long and narrow perhaps a couple of nice chairs at the end of the bed to enjoy the view outside, plus a great place to sit in the heat to make the most of the fan. Personally I like to have a fan in the bedroom, perhaps you could replace with a fan not so dark in colour, maybe your shades of gold. I think if you move the bed opposite the windows it would overpower the whole room and make the room seem small
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Beautiful, sophisticated room! I love the lights, chair rail, and gorgeous bed! What about an upholstered bench or love seat at the foot of the bed?
  • 13 years ago
    I think you've pretty much had all the right solutions suggested, however, not necessarily in one comment. So here's mine:
    1. Cover entire window wall behind bed with floor to ceiling draperies. Extend draperies over sliders to cover more wall and to the ceiling. Forget the window behind the bed, leave the draperies closed and centre the bed.
    2. Replace the night tables with two larger ones that don't match. Same with the lamps. The bed is symmetrical enough and overpowering.
    3. Remove the chair rail. Put it in your dining room where it belongs.
    4. Have a birthday party and use the ceiling fan as a piñata. There are lots of ceiling fan solutions, if you must have one, that do not have offensive lighting involved. Who uses that horrible ceiling light anyway? Having it on simply destroys all your design choices in the room. If you depend on this light currently to illuminate the room when entering and it is on the switch at the door then have an electrician change it so that your bedside lights can be controlled dually by the door switch and from the bed.
    5. Place a low love seat, bench or two chairs at the foot of the bed making sure the carpet is large enough to ground them.
    6. Forget anything as fussy as stencilling and choose a dramatic dark color for the walls.
    7. Work with one color strip from a paint deck to layer paint and bedding color choices and add one accent color in pillows or upholstery or carpet or the stripe on the draperies.
    8. Add some pattern/design interest with original art on the two side walls.
  • 13 years ago
    With an off center window behind the bed, you will always be fighting asymetry. How about removing the fan so the bed frame is not competing with it and turning the bed towards the patio door. If you put it on that wall, I would do some built ins around the window to add a large amount of texture with books and objects. Keep it light colored. Use bigger nightstands and also hang the drapes to the ceiling with several inches extra for flow. Now from the bed you can look outside to a peaceful garden and fell the breeze.
  • 13 years ago
    What a great space! Rotate the bed to be against the wall on the left, and swap out the nightstands with some beautiful dressers. Love the grass cloth idea above the chair rail, and a warm chocolate brown below. On the wall with the small window, take the drapes all the way across the wall to make it soft and inviting.
  • 13 years ago
    If you paint the fan, or at least the blades, the same color as the ceiling, you will notice it less. I would also consider hanging drapes all across the wall behind the bed, floor to ceiling, to soften the room and conceal the off-center window. A bench at the foot of the bed will make it feel more complete, and some artwork you really like will personalize the space. You have a good start!
  • 13 years ago
    I really think you should put the head of the bed on the wall with the mirror. The room will have a more balanced feel.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    The room is too heavily weighted to one side with the bed in its current location. I have lost count of how many posters have said that, but your room will "open" up when and if you move it. It really will. Sometimes the ROOM, just TELLS you what to do......usually comes out best when you don't put up a fight : )
  • 13 years ago
    The bed is competing with the ceiling fan and the window above the headboard. The canopy of the bed is much too high for the ceiling height in such a narrow room. In my opinion, stenciling any wall in this room will make it look even more jumbled and much too busy. I would go with a bed without a canopy.....you really need just a headboard and footboard in that room. But if you keep the bed, the Hollywood Hills Home photo posted by anne dee (see above) is a great example of a situation that would work -- by putting canopy to floor drapery on the bed and blocking that window, you will remove a lot of the jumbled look in that room (you would just have the fan competing with the canopy then).
  • 13 years ago
    I just realized something else that is off-putting -- the chair rail. It detracts from the warm feeling you are after, and puts a hideous horizontal line down an already long wall. The chair rail accentuates the narrow feeling of the room. Maybe get rid of the chair rail, or paint it the same as the wall color? I do LOVE your wall color, and your drapes are fabulous too. Another thought -- the ceiling fan wouldn't look so "out there" if you removed the "boob light" fixture......maybe consider a white fan to blend in with the ceiling. And on that long wall, I would have 2 wall sconces with a photo arrangement inbetween them. I like your bed off-center on the window wall where it is now....makes the room look wider when you're standing in it.
  • 13 years ago
    The first thing I thought: Doesn't it bother anyone that you are looking into the bathroom? Your bedroom should be your hideaway, calm and welcoming. I agree with the majority here.
    1. The bed is beautiful and it should be on the wall opposite the sliding doors. That bed is so important in the room that it needs to "breathe".
    2. The nitestands are too small for the bed. This happens quite often. Build a "tower" around the nitestands: almost like a bookcase (10" deep and the height of the canopy) and mirror the back of the bookcases. Hang adjustable arm wall lamps to free up the nitestand tops. Place a good piece of art over the headboard.
    3. Definately take the chair rail off. It's too colonial for the modern mood of the bed.
    4. The rug is too small, but when you move the bed it will work.
    5. Love the grasscloth suggestion with the silver backing, it's so elegant. Go for it, you will be happy you did. If we still can't convince you, paint the room a very light blueish/purple/grey and buy "Pearlize" paint to go over the color. Ralph Lauren Paints.
    6. Yes, add fabric to the window curtains so that they are ceiling to floor, and I love the screen idea from Carolins, for that window that is now over your bed. Wouldn't you love to see that texture through the bed frame? Gorgeous!
    7. It would also make sense to have the TV closer to the bed on the slider wall. Please keep that wall simple. The tv and window treatments are enough. Think: Luxury of Space. You can add art on the "screen" window wall
    8. You can remove the lighting from the fan, I do it all the time. (I love fans and hate a/c)
    9. Buy a round rug for in front of the sliders with an interesting print (think art).
    10. I would like to see a lounge chair with an odd ottoman on an angle on the right of the sliders.

    Good Luck! You have some wonderful suggestions with this group. Let us know what you are doing.
  • 13 years ago
    Please take the advice and move that bed to the wall opposite the sliding doors!
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Yes, he loves the fan...but go buy a "ceiling hugger" with no light fixture.
    And, I would remove the top crosspiece of the canopy across the foot of the bed, then add a drape across the head of the bed similar to the one in Anne Dee's photo.
    Moving the bed would be my top priority...and removing the cross piece at the foot would keep the fan from interfering with the bed, no? Fung Shui suggests that the bed should have its foot to the door; however, your most prominent door is the sliding glass, not the one from the hall.
    I would also raise the drapes to the ceiling, add drapes to the offset window to make it look centered on the wall, and remove the chair rail.
    After all that is done, then start thinking about patterns...you may find you don't need them.
  • 13 years ago
    I have two suggestions; put drapes behind the bed ceiling to floor with the bed centered, or put a large mirror behind each night stand and increase the height of the night stands with a more substantial light with print or some sort of pattern on the shades. With the drapes from wall to wall still increase the size of both the night stands and lamps.
  • 13 years ago
    The issue with the fan: Moving it towards the entrance is not a costly item. Remove the light and that rod connecting the fan end with the ceiling usually can be removed to gain height. Don't mess with the integrity of the bed, when you move it to the wall opposite the sliders, it will look great.
  • 13 years ago
    I LOVE your bed. Does it have sideboards that match the footboard that we see? If so, and you turn the bed so the head is on the wall facing the sliding glass door, would love to see a photo. Where did you buy it, if you don't mind saying? I also think you should take down the chair rail. It is clashing with that beautiful bed and disrupting the quiet elegance that I think you may be trying to achieve.

    I think the fan light would look better with a different globe, and you can find an elegant one to match your decor when you are finished with the room.
  • 13 years ago
    Been thinking about your design questions, and looking at other photos with beds similar to yours. The ones that have a drapery wall behind them look pretty fabulous. So if you like the position of your bed, I think you need to beef up the drapery/curtain arrangement behind the headboard - which will help you hide the fact that the window is off-center and allow you to center the bed. There are lots of photos of beds similar to yours with full wall drapery behind them. They are usually layered, with a more sheer material in the center, and drapes that pull to the side when open. One of the advantages of doing this is that you can find drapery material that closely matches your dream of having some metallic pattern in the room, and you can have shams or other bed pillows done in the same fabric plus coordinating fabric for a very elegant look without being to glitzy.

    I see that you already have drapes at the sliding glass door, and I know that what I am suggesting above is pretty expensive. even if you are handy and can sew them yourself, but I think it is one way to get the elegant metallic look you want, without resorting to expensive wall paper or a difficult paint job. Maybe the door could be done with the sheer fabric, with a small side panel of the metallic fabric.

    Sorry, but I don't like the rug under the bed. It is pulling our eye down, when you want the focal point to be the bed and the new drapes (if you install them).
  • 13 years ago
    Moving the fan is NOT inexpensive. With what looks to be a smooth coat ceiling, you'll have a hole that needs to be patched which may require resurfacing half or more of the ceiling, and then you will need to repaint the entire ceiling. I did this when I recently moved a fan out of our living room. Final cost was almost $2,000, though the electrician's bill was less than $200, and our ceiling was a knock down texture, easier to patch and re-texture.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    If you want stencil, do stencils, but I do agree that the bed (which I envy) should be moved to the longer wall. You can keep the window with any floaty drapery to keep it light, but that will also free up the corners for a tropical plant and I suggest a rattan chair. I use the elements in my own bedroom wherever I am. Being able to cover your sliding glass doors when you sleep is a great idea, but I recommend a light-blocking version of bamboo shades--it is cleaner looking, and better for allergies too. Combining lighter elements that complement the heavy wood allows you to mix and match styles, esp if you like Colonial. Good luck! I am sure it will turn out great--please post your final work!
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    will allow to replace bed ?
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Your bedroom is beautiful and it has so much potential to give it the wow factor. Your bed is beautiful but to large for the space, I know moving it to a larger wall wouldn't give you easy access to the other side when climbing into bed. However, if you want to stencil or get similar type of wallpaper as you have shown, it would look amazing (do remove the middle wall moulding for a streamline wall, thus making the area less divided and walls and ceiling will appear higher). As for the window behind the wall, just get fabric with the same wallpaper design that you can have custom made go wall to wall, to give the pattern a continuous effect (Robert Allen carries wallpaper and same fabric). Also, higher night tables so it will look more symmetrical . Because your bed is a dark and warm colour, go with a lighter colour duvet (light grey colour fabric with a sheen would be nice) with some matching shams that you can have make to match walls and curtains. I would also move the rug further out and add a ottoman or chaise lounge, at the end of the bed to complete the look. Also, get a soft white light bulb because the yellow light changes the colour and effect of your walls, paint etc... Good luck.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Neutral Shades, Deep-hue Shades, Bright Shades, Elegant Shades, Classic Shades are the good and innovative ways by which you can decorate your living room. Try it because our living room walls talks with colors what we select for them.
  • 13 years ago
    Debbie Dee I love the way the doors oen into the room. I would stencil the long wall you see as you walk into the room. Make the whole wall above the chair rail a feature. Use neutral colors and repeat the pattern in the powder room, on a larger scale, much larger. You will need to make your own stencil . Then you could use an opalescent glaze to get the shine, but not add to much color, for the stencil. Keep it soft. Would look great. Also a much darker rug with your natural pattern and colors would help anchor the bed. It is great but looks to close to the ceiling. A rug would bring the eye down so it looks more balanced. I just remodled our master and put in a sitting area. Love , love, love it. Your room is nice and long. It could hold it. Just some thoughts. Good luck!
  • PRO
    13 years ago
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    absolutely love what you have done with the room!

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  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Hi KT, if you are looking for some art for your master bedroom to go along with the metallic earthy theme, here are some works from our gallery that might work very well:
    Sun Burst by Katrine Hildebrandt-Hussey · More Info
    Positive/Negative by Katrine Hildebrandt-Hussey · More Info
    Of Nothing Too Much by Jen Wink · More Info


    Or, if you are looking for some contrast, check out some of the other great works on our website! Good luck with the room
  • 13 years ago
    You should always hang your curtains as close to the ceiling as possible for a more spacious feeling. Also, with shorter ceilings like yours it would help scale-wise with the size of the bed. I am speaking about the drapes on the doors but also adding drapes behind the bed on that window as well to go floor to ceiling. I realize that the window is off-center so that is why you have the bed off center on the wall. With drapes on that back window you can fake the width of the window that way you can balance it out on the back wall. Thus, being able to center your bed on the back wall.

    I agree with the husband as not to remove the fan, however; I would see about removing the light kit and getting a cap for the existing fan once it's removed. Installing can lights would help with the height of this room. The light kit brings the fan down further and interferes with the eye when looking at the bed. With can lights you can add a dimmer for drama/mood.

    I like the pattern of your stencil design, but not the idea of doing any stenciling. You can get drapes made with this pattern for both the window and doors. You can do coordinating colors on the bed.

    I agree with some earlier posts that you need taller bedside tables. I would suggest replacing the existing rug with one having deeper tones of taupe that can work with your existing wall color and trim.
  • 13 years ago
    the bed is too bulky for the room. a tall bedstead like the one you have requires a tall ceiling in order not to take up all the visible space. not well proportioned to the restricted space, unfortunately. beds are like christmas trees. they look much smaller in the store.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    @irb945
    My guess is this furniture was fairly recently purchased. Would I have chosen that particular bed? Probably not!!! For all the reasons you stated. I do, however, think a move of the bed to the long wall left of the entry would help immensely,taking it out of it's little nook, and providing it some visual air. As would removal of the chair rail, which visually cuts the room in half, ...AND giving up that particular ceiling fan in favor of one very close to the ceiling in white. And go from there!! I doubt our "client" wants to get rid of her bed.......: )
  • 13 years ago
    i doubt it, too. i also agree with the suggestions you mention. it's just unfortunate to have included such a massive visual block in such a small space.
  • 13 years ago
    I am all about making what we love work. If the bed is just to die for in your eyes, use it. I can see removing the top rail at the end of the bed. It would allow the fan to look like it was meant to be there, not running into the bed. you would still get the look you like in the bed and it would work better in the room with the fan your husband loves. Just my 2 cents on the bed debate.. Also, beuatiful ceiling to floor, wall to wall drapes behind the headboard of the bed would hide the unevan window and make for a luxe feel around the bed space. Do a great rich copper or vintage looking silver. A beatiful pattern with all your natural colors would work also. . Lighting could also really play up this area, mayby really dramatic hanging lamps, hung low, on either side of the bed. Light colored shades if drapes are dark and dark shades if drapes are light. Or tall table lamps to play against the hieght of the bed.. Thank you for letting me express my inner designer. May not work for you but I have had fun dreaming about your master!!
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Actually, I would be for removing ALL the top rails, and "creating" a lovely, hefty four poster...clean and simple and architectural. Store them, and if the next house has a master with a nine or ten foot ceiling.....
  • 13 years ago
    The great thing about furniture is that you can move it around.
  • 13 years ago
    I've never liked ceiling fans, but... Add can lights and change your ceiling fan to one with no light, or with an up light. I just installed one in my master. The rest of my house has no lights. I shorten the rods so they did not hang as low, you can also get a hugger fan, I prefer the rod and adjust. The two pictures shows the light on and off, this picture is taken during the day. It's a great mood light.
  • 13 years ago
    What about Plantation Shutters floor to ceiling at the window, then center the bed. Paint your crown molding weathered brown (Dunn Edwards), this would tie with the bed. You could add mood lighting behind the shutters for a nice affect.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Sometimes a room happens a bit by accident. A couple is out shopping, they see a bed. Someone says..."gee, that's nice!" But all furniture gives off a feel, whether that is masculine or feminine, clean and bold, or soft and curvy, hard or soft. In this room, whether or not that was the intention, the feel is one of bold masculinity. Now.. seems to me the poster of the dilemma was seeking a bit of softness, perhaps a feel not even discussed or planned for when the bed was chosen. To get to the "softer" thing, and to get the bed in balance and scale with the size of the room, the bed truly needs to move to the long wall. Removing the top rails of the bed would lighten its scale, take away the box feeling, and take nothing away from it's good looks. Bedside tables, scaled to the bed would help. The end window, and its short appearance can benefit from a console underneath, and curtain panels. Add a larger rug sized to scale of the room. I would likely remove that chair rail, and AFTER doing these things, decide if any pattern is necessary. Likely it won't be. An ir repeater with cable box hidden in a closet, solve the dangling cord problem over the dresser, move tv....to view at foot of new location for bed. I bow out of the fan battle, other than to say, white, close to ceiling......and no light : )
  • 12 years ago
    ktvanallen- So, you thought this would be simple, didn't you?! One thing you learned from this is that there are LOTS of advice. Love to see what you finally did. It will put us all in our place! lol
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