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Is this Samurai Dwarf?

8 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago

This is another of my 'poor baby' plants. It was not even in its medium, or in its pot! I like it when this happens. How much should I have expected to pay for this guy!? Just curious. I think I got a heck of a deal! I was surprised at the spines! Read about done Sans with spines, never thought I'd see one in person. My goodness, are those leaves thick and solid!

Comments (22)

  • 8 years ago

    Having trouble getting photos in.


  • 8 years ago

    Looks just like mine. And those spines can draw blood. Like their Agave cousins.

  • 8 years ago

    I put this little fellers pic on a Sans. Page on Facebook, trying for ID. Someone said there's no such thing as samurai. There are about 3 different names that go with the plant that's called that. Someone called it a beheaded seedling. I am bummed.

    You know, as soon as I saw the spine, I had to test it's ability to penetrate my thumb.

    I'm having so much fun prowling for these plants, and hit 3 of them today.

  • 8 years ago

    'No such thing as samurai', really, just google it. It is a cult. of ehrenbergii as Ruddy stated. I know there are many made up names that nurseries use but this one is around for awhile. It was also know as Lav. 23154 until a legitimate name would be found.

    shana_lee29 thanked Stush2049 Pitts. PA, zone 6
  • 8 years ago

    That is the information that I was able to find, as well. Thank you both.

  • 8 years ago

    Cranky botanist in poor health. I hope he's having better days that make someone like me unnoticeable. He did give me some resources, very glad for that! He gives me reasons to want to be nice to him.

  • 8 years ago

    I might have to browse that Sans. facebook page. Is it an open group?

  • 8 years ago

    No. It's Sansevieria, all in caps. The one with near 800 members. Closed group. There are many professionals there, knowledgeable folks. I am not one if these, and perhaps out of ignorance, I offended someone. I love to look at plants when I'm not feeling well, and this site offers some truly lovely pictures of beautiful plants.

  • 8 years ago

    I apologise. This is a public group. I don't know that I know the difference between open and public. I had to answer a couple of questions, and then they added me.

  • 8 years ago

    I put this little fellers pic on a Sans. Page on Facebook, trying for ID. Someone said there's no such thing as samurai. There are about 3 different names that go with the plant that's called that. Someone called it a beheaded seedling. I am bummed.

    I saw that thread on Facebook. The man making the accusation is very intolerant. I'm guessing he's very old and set in his ways, since he said he has been studying Sansevierias since before we were born.

  • 8 years ago

    Pretty sure Samurai is a Thai name and they seem to be renaming everything or adding an extra name after the species name. I believe ehrenbergii Samurai is simply the species ehrenbergii.

    I was thinking of checking out the Facebook group, but I may know that irritating, intolerant member. I will not join if this person is, in fact, there.


    Shana Lee, do not apologize for simply asking questions, or for not knowing as much about sans as the next fellow. Everyone was a beginner sometime, even the so-called expert on Facebook.


  • 8 years ago

    Stephen Jankalski Have no idea what you are going on about. Obviously none of you have done your homework. The name "Samurai" was originally applied to the Arabian species now validly named Sans. dhofarica. It has also been misapplied to dwarf taxa from Somalia. Lavranos 23154 is Sans. 'Warshiik'. Butler, A. (2009) The Somali Sansevieria puzzle. Sansevieria 21: 3-7, illus.

  • 8 years ago

    I just copied and pasted above what the guy wrote

  • 8 years ago

    Thanks Manuel, as I suspected. I personally take information in his comments and articles with a very large grain of salt.

    Russ


  • 8 years ago

    I complimented another gentlemen on his little samurai, and a girl, and he gave us "Church Lady!" In the next few conversations, he mellowed some. I do believe that might be his entertainment, or a hobby when he does not feel well. Of course, he may just be a little prickly. I looked at some if those journals. A little pricey for now. But then I found some more, printed in German than can be xlated to English. A free download. I think it's just called Sansevieria online journal. Any experience with it here? I'm going to have to read the Trifasciata book, if I can find one at a reasonable price, or have library order it for me. I have to learn how to copy and paste things on this phone! Thank you, all. I read that thus gentlemen was on Gardenweb for a time, and on a Sansevieria Yahoo group. Sounds like that last one might not have well. I guess this fella is the one responsible for Druid Hill, if I read correctly.

  • 8 years ago

    You don't know how many times some one said to me 'I have done this for 40 years' or 'Before you were Born'. That does not make them correct. Once an a*****e always a a*****e. I do have great respect for many who was here and now gone.

    I was going to join that yahoo group because Norma Lewis and Hermine Stover was members but refused to answer so many personal questions. Don't need the hassle.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I agree, Stush. I admit that I would like to discuss with and have info from the old-time collectors at Facebook Sans, like Norma and Hermine. But "his" presence rules out my being there.

    Shana Lee, if The Trifasciata Book is the one by Hermine Stover, I'd be glad to photocopy my copy and send to you. I have other old sans articles I can copy if you're interested. I will post the titles here, anyone else interested let me know.

  • 8 years ago

    Hermine's book is posted for free download;

    http://fradnai.free.fr/docs/SansevieriaBook.pdf

    The Splendid Sansevieria
    by Chahinian B.J.;

    http://bookos.org/s/?q=sansevieria&e=1&t=0

    Don't have his'The Sansevieria Trifasciata Varieties: A Presentation of All Cultivated Varieties', by B. Juan Chahinian (Author)

    Although I do own the book. Don't have all the updated photos that was in the Sans Journals.

  • 8 years ago

    I read the Hermine Stover book. You kindly provided me with a link a little while ago, Stush.

    Russ, thank you for such a nice offer!

    The above book by J. C. Is one I would very much like to take a look at.

    The succulent plants that I saw in everyone's home, as a child, are very popular now. I really like seeing the young gooing over them.


  • 8 years ago

    I think I paid like $50 for the book at the time on Amizon and thought I was being taken. List is $19.95. After I purchased it, saw it for over $300 and it was not to be found. So I consider myself lucky. Why can't they reprint books?

    I loved Hermine's book. I get a chuckle out of it every time I re-read it.

  • 8 years ago

    What? Houzz just killed my comment.

    I've looked for the JC book and found prices from 110.- over 600.00. Wishing for a reprint, too. It's so very nice the Hermine Stover's book is available for use to read, though I would have purchased it. I will print it, so that I can have some actual paper.

    I've managed to keep a Schlumbergera and a Spathiphyllum alive in this dark dungeon for a few years. I'm getting antsy over my new plants, and their supplemental light needs. It's been a fun summer, but not at all a budget buster.

    Golden Hahnii 4.00, Moonshine about 10. francissii 8, hahnii Hahnii 4.50, Hahnii Jade 4.50, H. Jade marginata 4.50, Hahnii marginata 4.50, Samurai Dwarf 4.50, Futura Superba 5, 3 leaves of some cylindrical 10 ish. Introductions are almost out if the way! I really did hit a bit if a honey hole in a store some distance from here, where I was able to stop once. A future visit will surely find me bring something else home. I have a Nutty fund going for more plants. It will soon be time to order, I believe. There's just too much eye candy on these pages.

    It's been very hot, very humid, with a breeze. It seems that Samurai Dwarf was holding something in. It seems to have grown taller, wider and thicker. Moreso than from a fluffing from a drunk of water. For a slow growing plant, Sansevieria growth spurts can happen pretty fast. Everywhere I see this plant, it is called Samurai Dwarf. If that is not it's real name, it's stuck with it. It'll be for it's own good. It will get that plant bought and into people's lives, and they will have a name for it.

    I've seen The number with this specific plant, and not the Warshiik plant, which is listed with no number, but this listing is trade. I saw where parentage if thus plant was supposed to be Warshiik x Pinguecula. Somewhere, there is supposed be a Salaf. This might make for a winter project that won't really go anywhere, but that's ok.

    I really appreciate the talk here and the attention given to these plants. There is just not bumpers of that happening.






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