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Manuel made me do it -- Handsome New Sans

6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago

Hi Folks,

Don't have lots of pix yet, but I got down to the Vendor Manuel mentioned in NYC, Union Square (Fantastic Gardens). Those S Hahnii pix he had shown had me wanting some. I got there late in the day, so there wasn't the full selection of earlier in the day.

But I got 2 Hahniis & a dwarf Samurai (the vendor called it; reminds of of S pinguicula).

Here's the 1st 2 pic before battery died.

No ID Hahnii, has some broken leaf tips but 2 nice young pups at its base.



The one that really caught my eye. I'd guess the ID something like S Jade hahnii.



More pix to follow where you'll see, but it's very dark, I really like it!

Thanks for the inspiration Manuel!

Comments (40)

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Karen

    Looks similar to my S. hahnii 'Jade Dwarf' - here is recent thread I posted: Sans...

    Karen S. (7b, NYC) thanked rina_Ontario,Canada 5a
  • 6 years ago

    He did take some nice pictures of some very pretty plants. The pictures here just make me ache for more beauty in the home, and plants to fiddle with. These look so very clean, and are a reminder that I have more tasks to complete before they all come in.

    Karen S. (7b, NYC) thanked shana_lee29
  • 6 years ago

    I wish I had known. I would've told you about a little gem in the East Village, about 12 blocks away from the Farmers Market. They have a great selection of beautiful plants. Only problem is they are very expensive. I'm going to post a pic of the Senecio Stapiiliformis I bought from that little shop. Can't remember the name right now, but I will look it up

  • 6 years ago

    By the way, I learned about this vendor from someone who used to post here all the time, Bernard

    Karen S. (7b, NYC) thanked hellkitchenguy Manuel
  • 6 years ago

    Thx anyway Manuel, it's just as well, I prefer the cheaper option. I did well pricewise too, the trio for $20.


    I unpotted them today as I have to change from their peatier mix. I'm happy to see nice, well rooted & healthy plants. Have a look.

    Had no IDs, but I consider this S mini. samurai (or pingucula)


    These roots are smallish, but it's a slow growing Sans.


    Next the Jade Hahnii, very healthy.



    I'll trim 'em back just a bit.



    I separated the smaller pup from here, this speckled Hahnii (?)



    Have some more cleaning off to do from this, l will leave them out overnight & pot up tomorrow. I potted up the one separated pup already.

  • 6 years ago

    I have one that looks just like the last one(s) pictured just above. I've been told it's a Sansevieria trifasciata 'Hahnii' - Birds Nest Sansevieria. They're great.

    Karen S. (7b, NYC) thanked Jeff (5b)
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Thx Jeff, that's what I'll call it then. I like the mottled pattern on this one.

    Here they are after repotting. my own C&S w/ lots of Pumice mix.

    Oops, sorry, my pix didn't seem to take, camera glitch.

  • 6 years ago
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    Camera's been down for a bit, but here's the trio repotted, pretty nice haul.

    [had pix here updating the repots]

    Just lost a whole post, going to see if it comes back in a while Grrrrr.

  • 6 years ago

    OK, I'll try the update again:



    The other pup, which I separated,




    The supposed Samurai (which looks like Pinguicula to me). Elegant & regal looking.



    And the last, RIna has called it Hahnii Jade dwarf, I find it so darkly handsome!




    Now I just have to be careful abt watering as the temps drop (I guess). Pls share any pointers on Hahnii care as I've lost them several times & could use the help. TIA,

  • 6 years ago
    Your supposed samurai looks like one of my NOIDs, Karen.

    I don’t think it’s a samurai either. It looks very different. I’d like to know what it is though, I’ve been told mine is a Lavranos 23251
    Karen S. (7b, NYC) thanked ruddy 24
  • 6 years ago
    dont believe ruddy karen. it’s a samurai for sure! i’ve googled it for you. thank me later!
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Mike the FLFG,

    I try to stay off your threads & I ask that you pls. stay off of mine. I have asked you elsewhere NOT TO HELP PEOPLE as you simply don't know anything about plants yet & your help has included bad advice, so pls just stop.

    If I wanted an answer from Google, I could have gone there w/out your help. You DO realize I'm able to Google w/out your help, right?

    Sorry Ruddy, back to plant business.

    Yes, I see & agree, our plants DO resemble each other. I've looked at pix online & agree it looks more like S. Lavranos 23251. If one searches that name & number on here, it goes back to a conversation w/ Norma (who really knew her Sans), where I thought she said she'd seen at least 3 different names for this plant. I have to check further. Thanks for the suggestion.

    Curious, what kind of mix are you using there? I ask 'cause it looks both dark & very finely particled (likely water rententive?). I wouldn't have thought that a good mix for a Sans.

  • 6 years ago

    Karen, your plants look beautiful. Well done! Today I bought a huge Sansevieria from Home-Depot of all places. I'll start a threat about it.

    Karen S. (7b, NYC) thanked hellkitchenguy Manuel
  • 6 years ago
    oh i thought you need help googling otherwise you would have googled and stopped doubting everyone who told you it’s a samurai. so sorry.
  • 6 years ago
    Yes, Karen. It is not a chunky mix. I have to confess that I have been a bit lazy about my own research and have relied on the advice of the nurseries/growers who sold me the plants.

    This one particular mix was recommended by a lady who sold me a few plants. It isn’t chunky but it feels very light and fluffy almost like a non-peat based cactus mix. I can definitely say there is some loam and coco husk mixed in there as well. I will have to remind myself to ask what it is made up of the next time I visit.

    My manolyn? has been doing much better in this mix. It was in a chunky one before.







    Almost none of my sans are in a chunky mix. I have been particularly careful with watering but it might also have to do with the climate - I live in Singapore, where it’s warm and sunny all year round.
    I may be doing something wrong, only time will tell. For now they seem to be growing well.

    And your new plants look beautiful Karen. Thank you for sharing.
    Karen S. (7b, NYC) thanked ruddy 24
  • 6 years ago

    Karen, I think both are right. Ruddy's plant looks like a Lavranos 23251 and yours looks like a Samurai Dwarf. I own both and they do look a little alike but change when the get older.

    First my Samurai Dwarf.

    My Lavranos '23251'.

    I thru in a ping in the mix. It like to walk or go above ground.

    Notice they all look so similar and is hard to ID.

    Also your other sans hahnii looks like my hahnii Silver Marginata.

    It tends to hold on to that lighter color of new sprouts. I purchased it as 'Starlight'.

    All your purchased plants look great and good find.

    Karen S. (7b, NYC) thanked Stush2049 Pitts. PA, zone 6
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Hi Folks,

    Sorry I never made it back here. Very nice plants Stush, tho' confusing btwn Lavranos 23251 & Samurai Dwarf, I guess time will tell. All such healthy looking plants there too.

    Here's an update a month later, they're all fine, looking good even. I don'recall how much I've watered, once maybe twice. I tend to underwater my Sans., am trying to be more brave & water these guys once in a while!



    The others taking in more direct sun.



    Samurai Dwarf / Lavranos



    Ruddy, they really do look alike. Here in the group where it sits. Sorry for all the blue green, making it harder to see.



    I hadn't seen Manolyn before Ruddy, quite handsome & lovely variegation.


    Reminds me of this handsome no ID another friend shared w/ me. All I know is clearly it's a Spoonshape like your Manolyn.



    Before I digress too far, Manuel thank you again for motivating me to get to Union Square & get these beauties. They've certainly prettied up my home!


    Happy Thanksgiving everybody & continued good Sans. growing!

  • 6 years ago

    Thanks for the update. Your plants look great, especially the spoon shaped one. All my Hahniis rot. All the ones I had rotted, except one so far. I'm just going to enjoy the one remaining one until it also decides to rot, and then never again.

    Karen S. (7b, NYC) thanked hellkitchenguy Manuel
  • 6 years ago

    Manuel, You are not alone. I had my share of failures as well. The variegated Hahnii you purchased is some of the hardest ones to grow. It is during this time of year that is the hardest. Doesn't matter what potting soil you use but can't water them. They may look bad and even start to die back but water them and they rot. I was hoping you would be one of the few who has good luck with them. Talk to the man who sold them to you for advise.

    Woodnative here is very good at these.

    Maybe start over with the futura group. A little larger growing but are more forgiving.

  • 6 years ago
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    I too have done badly w/ Hahniis thru the yrs; I think I've killed at least 3 before giving up. But these were so nice I wanted to try again. I have them all in terra cotta to help them dry out. I even have some elevated, so that air can circulate beneath the roots. In that shot about taking more direct sun, you can see the plastic rings I use the elevate the clay pot so air can circulate. I use a lot of Scotch tape at work & those rings are the plastic cores from rolls of tape I finished.

    So Stush, just as I get the courage to water more, you're suggested not watering them at all in winter, hum. Now, you'll get me scared again ;>).

    Speaking of Spoonshaped, I saw on another thread your comment about my posting reminding you of your Concinna which was still outside. How did that work out, did you get to it in time?

  • 6 years ago

    I might have to re-write the book on Sans. When seeing your post on Concinna, I remembered mine was still out side. We had a lot of rain, some snow and well below the freezing mark. I brought them in and put them in the basement and though maybe I might be lucky with one root surviving but the whole pot did well. Didn't loose even a leaf. In fact, once under the shop lights, they are producing new pups. Thank you again Karen for your post that reminded me.

    I water my sans about twice a month. Some look a little dehydrated but must force myself to hold back. The non trifasciata ones don't seem effected by too much or too little water. The bantal's even want more water.

  • 6 years ago

    I signed off Houzz accidentally, took a few days to get back on ... sigh.


    Stush,


    Good to hear your Concinna survived & sounds like they're thriving now. Maybe some pix pls when you can? Happy to help accidentally ;>)


    My apmt is pretty warm so my plants are in active growth. Funny you say your Bantels seems thirsty, I often feel that abt my Siam SiIver. I need to update pix of its fast growing pup, has nice variegation.



  • 6 years ago

    Some of the leaves are a little beat up. That happened during summer but lots of new growth. I'll clean up when it comes back out for spring/summer. Lucky to be alive. Also got some strange bloom stock forming on one of the roots from S. Senegambica. Never had one from the roots before.

    Other blooms

    This bloomed last month and now set barres. Did this last year and no seeds. Just mush.

    Another one blooming.

    I have a Fernwood blooming but no pictures yet. Looks the same as above.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Hey Stush,

    Cool you're having blooms, the 2nd pix w/ the budding bloom stalk looks a lot like the Asparagus I just finished eating.

    That 1st pot of Concinna looks so different, even if a bit 'rough' looking. I like that it's sort of growing in all directions at once. Thx for the photo updates!


    ETA: Pls say what are Barres?

  • 6 years ago

    Berries not barres. Surprised spell checker didn't find that. Sorry. I'll update pictures when it opens up so I don't confuse it with asparagus. LOL :-)

  • 6 years ago

    Oops, berries then, never mind!

  • 6 years ago
    Do you guys know where I could get something like this in Washington per chance? your pictures and plants are AMAZING they're so pretty. I'll look at home depot after christmas, but is there anywhere (as in other chains) that sell these?
  • 6 years ago

    Hi Eryn,


    Which 'something like this' do you mean pls., since Stush & I have shown a lot of DIFFERENT plants on this thread. At least 7 varieties at quick count ;>)

  • 6 years ago

    Keep eyes open. I purchased some at the local super market at our old K-Marts, Walmarts, Home Depot and Lowes. Most any nurseries when traveling along the road thru Ohio and Pa.

    Ebay has some nice ones but you pay a higher price plus sometimes more for the shipping then the plant. Mail order nurseries; Bob Smoleys', Hirts', The Succulent Source, Arid Lands Nur. to name a few. My best deals was at the big box stores and Walmarts.

  • 6 years ago
    thanks so much guys! by something like this, I mean anything in the thread. currently my collection is one golden sedum from home depot that is about 2 inches, and some teeny weeny babies my grandma have me as leaves.
  • 6 years ago

    Great finds Nancy! God how I miss NYC...!

  • 6 years ago

    Hey Manuel,


    Pls check your Houzz Messages.

  • 6 years ago

    Bump

  • 5 years ago

    My remaining Hahniis continue.


    My supposed Silver Hahnii.



    2 survived nicely, handsome plants. The 3rd, a pup I separated out didn't.



    My Jade Dwarf didn't make it. I don't remember what did it in, but I found a nice replacement marginata, which does great as long as I ignore it completely it seems.



    Another looker in my book.


    Think I found this locally for cheap, so I thought I'd try again.

  • 5 years ago
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    It's well known good dogs are attracted to flowering Sans.

    Karen S. (7b, NYC) thanked cactusmcharris, interior BC Z4/5
  • 5 years ago

    Karen, I am not sure of this, but a guy who is very expert at growing sansaverias told me, that the base of the rosette should be exposed to sun and air. I see that yours are either planted rather deeply in pots or you used external (decorative) pots. Perhaps this might cause a problem? Mind you, I have my own problems with growing hahnii sansevierias, so this is not a "must do" statement - just an idea to think about!

    Karen S. (7b, NYC) thanked Basia K
  • 5 years ago

    Crown rot is my biggest problems with hahnii so keeping the crown elevated is always good advise. That said, they seem to grow new pups at soil level or below so some times I have to re-pot razing up the plant a little. Strong Sun light is a natural anti-fungal so come summer time outside vacation is always best for them.


    Karen,

    Love your Jade Marginata. Those yellow margins really stand out. I almost lost mine. Crown rot and then out of no where I got two new pups that are growing but ever so slowly due to no mother plant. I guess I'm lucky to have one at all.

    My hahnii Silver Marginata which I purchased as 'Starlight' has done remarkably well also but the leaves seem to have darken up some being inside thru winter. It really filled out the pot and needs a re-potting asap.

    Karen S. (7b, NYC) thanked Stush2049 Pitts. PA, zone 6
  • 5 years ago

    Karen, I gave up on keeping Hahnii type Sansevierias. They aways rot, but I do have a few other interesting ones. I'll have to start a new post and share.

  • 5 years ago
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    Hi Manuel,

    Yes, pls DO make a thread showing us what you're growing, especially as you mentioned 'a few interesting ones'. We'd like to see ;>)

    KarenS

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