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All shapes and forms to train .....

7 years ago

Now is a good time to read-up on this subject, there are so many ways to do this. My favorite for citrus or apple is the Modify Central leader. There are many books written about the different forms.

The main purpose is growing a tree for heavy production, sturdy branches are required.

You can easily ruined a tree. Give you 2 samples.

Some tree's are hard to train like the Sie-shan, very precocious, a tipbearing tree, very wippy, i don't like it very much. Another problem is because it is very precosious it tend to bear every other year.

Heavy than light or nothing. What i do with this tree, after a heavy year i prune this guy to very short branches, no flowers, no small fruits. Shiranui is a better tree to shape, so if you like this kind better so might as well grow several, it's hard to find anything better.






The 2 top ones are hard to correct and the bottom one is due for some heavy pruning.

You might not want to listen to somebody that tells you, you can leave one on, Bullll.

Comments (11)

  • 7 years ago

    Love that last tree Bob! I’m not good about training, I just prune when they are overgrown :)

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    Bob I hope your tree training works out for you and your tree. Kumquats can not be trained because they are so bush shape oriented. My NZL is still on trial. I do wish to train it.

    Steve

  • 7 years ago
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    I don,t worry, can make it go, with some it might take more time. I have done some crazy things to make the tree look nice again.

    l met a avocado eater today. How can I tell, well easy. Went to his place and he showed me a compost pile, in there he had about a couple of dozen seedlings growing. They were about two feet tall. I took four, bad thin the taproot was just as long as the tree. Had to cut of the root.

    Have a couple of friends in California who cut send me some super nice varieties of budwood.

  • 7 years ago

    Laura, that sie-Shan has lost most of its fruits, it’s a keeper, can keep small. Got 3 of them. Every body like them, including myself

  • 7 years ago

    Bob, Steve, give me some advice on training/pruning of this calamondin. I grafted it in March from cuttings that never wanted to root and stayed green for 7 months. The tree did well over the summer, but has very thick junctions of branches on the tips. Do I have to reduce the number of branches? They tend to bend under their own weight downward as they grow:

    It is about 2 feet tall, sorry for the dark picture!

  • 7 years ago

    Bob - I know I am going to need some advice on pruning my Shiranui (Harris tree). It's all wrapped up at the moment but once I unleash it, I need to try to get a pic of it by itself just to see what it looks like without the other stuff around it. It currently has 2 fruit on it.

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    Do you know if the sionwood came from a tree that was old enough to bear fruit? If so, then you going to have problems, it will be stunted. I personally would clear and only keep as little as 3 of the strongest ones and see if you could charge that guy a little come spring. Ups did not read all. If you want a larger tree you have to pinch the fruits of. Bigger tree, more fruits later. Look at it this way, you split your orchard this way, have some that are producing and the others growing at full speed.

    Shiranui is a delise fruit, top 3 so you have to believe it, don’t be too anxious, worry about the tree first. It will all comes together.

    as a matter of facts, you might be able to make more from cuttings, you can not have enough of those, one is not enough.

  • 7 years ago

    I don't prune or train so I don't know how to help you. I would leave it alone over winter and prune in spring to direct growth as bob said I also tend to break limbs over to change which limbs the tree puts its energy into. You nay also have to leave that tree staked for awhile till the trunk stiffens up. I am still having to give some support to my seed grown Meiwa kumquat trees.

    Steve

  • 7 years ago

    Looking good Steve, keep it up.

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    Thank you Steve and Bob! I am going to use the stick to hold up the leaning branches for now and not prune it, it will need all it's leaves over the winter months, will do pruning in the spring. The scion came from the fruiting calamondin seedling of my neighbour. Her seedling tree is large and fruiting for few years now, she grows it indoors by the window in her living room. She didn't know the name and the use for it's fruit, I told her it was calamondin and she could make marmalade with the fruit.