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Door Crown Molding

8 years ago

We are building a home and requested an upgraded door trim. We didn't realize some of the doors would have the trim die into the wall. The trim pieces will be painted white and our walls will be white. But if we ever paint the walls a different color, will this trim look wrong? Would it have been better to just use a single trim piece to sit on top of the header instead of the crown given that we have several doors close to the wall?




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  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    did you see the upgraded door trim? were their choices? I don't particularly care for that one, unless you have a type of home w/that style.

    Personally I would have like no reveal and mitered corners, or even just a simple squared top w/no reveal, and no cap piece.

    or, they could have done yours like this. perhaps have them redo it. at least the corner door.


  • PRO
    8 years ago
    This was a very popular trim style in the 1910’s - 1930’s in my area. Of corse in several areas some doors end up in corners. It’s fine.
    Grace Smith thanked HALLETT & Co.
  • 8 years ago
    Since the trim is not equal on both sides will it look weird with any color but white on the walls? I just want to make sure that it’s okay to have lopsided door trim. We live in the south and it’s a farmhouse style. This trim is common around here. Since we have a problem with another area of the house, this trim will probably need to be replaced with something simpler unless the problematic cabinet is rebuilt.

    I just wanted to know if this is customary to have part of the trim die into the wall in some places.
  • 8 years ago

    @ Grace Smith - I'm in the south too and that's a very popular style, although from what I've seen it's more like Beth's 2nd and 3rd picture look like in that it's more squared off. For yours, a fillet with the short crown might look better? Here's a window that kind of kills into the wall with that design (https://www.funkyjunkinteriors.net/2014/01/how-to-make-a-farmhouse-window-with-moulding.html). I've got multiple spots in our current build that are similar, along with some where even the door moulding has to be ripped to fit. Wish there was more foresight a lot of times :(

    Grace Smith thanked Sam Goh
  • 8 years ago

    That lopsided door trim needs to be fixed. That's just weird.

    Grace Smith thanked robin0919
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Grace - I have to say, we did more of a squared off top and during parade of homes I saw what you did. I liked it and considered adding it. But what you see there would annoy me. Yes it was done in the early 20th century - trim dying into a wall. And it is done today. Doesn't mean you or I have to like it. It is completely unavoidable all the time but when trim gets bulky and more complex, care should be taken to not do it in my opinion.

    Is it horrible? - no. If it happens often, for me it diminishes the value of the crown.

    Honestly the way door trim interacts with a wall (and drawers/cabinets) is a big deal and seemingly ignored by builders and designers. When you asked for the upgraded trim, it should have been discussed with you that it will be an issue in certain places. We went with a smaller door trim than we would have liked because of some areas like you have (when builder brought it up). Outside of a huge house, there are going to be doors near walls and it limits your ability to do heavy/fancy trim.

    Grace Smith thanked David Cary
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    I'm sorry but to me this is the result of poor planning and architectural design. If this is a new build, can they move the door far enough to allow the trim to be equal on both sides?

    Grace Smith thanked Diana Bier Interiors, LLC
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    @Diane Bier, I'm not sure we have enough information to blame this on poor planning and design. To consider trim details at this level in design requires a level of detailing that most folks are unwilling to pay for. It could also be a change during construction versus a selection made in the design phase.

    Grace Smith thanked Charles Ross Homes
  • 8 years ago
    As you can see from the comments, one side says fix it, the other side says it’s fine. So that means some people coming into your home will think it is weird, some won’t be bothered by it. The question is, as usual, what do you think? Does it bother you? Looking at it with my eye, my brain takes over and says, “door butting against adjacent wall, trim needs to be cut.”
    Grace Smith thanked Joy
  • 8 years ago

    I think that if anyone coming into your house focuses on the one door trim crown that butts into a wall - you've failed with everything else that should be going on. (and you need less picky friends)

    Seriously - there is no perfection in house building. There is also no perfection in planning things on paper - architects and designers are wonderful - but they also have their limitations. There are some things that need to be changed / managed / dealt with in the build process. This is one of those things. And it's not a biggie.

    There are a million other things and details in a home - not every one is preplanned or perfect. No matter how much money you spend on architects or designers.

    Grace Smith thanked just_janni
  • 8 years ago

    " I'm not sure we have enough information to blame this on poor planning and design."


    I will disgree Charles Ross Homes, didn't we have a similar crown/trim issue just 2 weeks ago with the same op/builder?

    Grace Smith thanked millworkman
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    @Millworkman, I can't remember what I had for lunch and you expect me to remember something posted two weeks ago?


    Most folks don't want to pay the cost for architectural plans that have interior elevations and details. If that's the case, I guess you can chalk it up to poor planning and design. It might also be one of those infamous changes during construction that gets everyone in trouble.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Thanks, millworkman, although I didn't see that post, I looked it up and here's the link:

    https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/5523426/new-build-with-kitchen-cabinet-too-large--for-door-cove-crown-molding

    If you read the homeowner's original post, you can see that this builder isn't a stranger to poor planning and execution.

    Grace Smith thanked Diana Bier Interiors, LLC
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    The final inspiration photo in the first post- chosen to show the transom- shows this exact situation. The door is in the corner so the crown dies into the adjacent wall. Looks fine.

    Grace Smith thanked HALLETT & Co.
  • 8 years ago

    We had one door where this happened in our build - we knew it was goig to be tight, but did it anyways.
    If the difference between the left and ride sides of the trim is very different, trim one side down so there is less difference in width. Otherwise, just leave it - historic homes are full of these!

    Grace Smith thanked lookintomyeyes83