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Advice on pruning Beverly

7 years ago

The pink rose is BEVERLY, and is the one I'm asking about. How should I prune it to get the most bloom production? The taller portion on the right has lots of less than pencil thin growth that is all green, should I get rid of all that? And to give it a more balanced look what height should it be pruned overall after pruning? Some of the Kordes roses grow differently than my other roses and are more of a challenge to prune.


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  • 7 years ago

    Kordes roses quite often have a habit of waiting until they have grown to their typical height and then make loads of blooms. Beverly is quite vigorous and gets to 5 feet quickly. Pruning is a stimulate and will encourage more green growth. I wouldn't cut it back more than a third and also cut back the wayward shoots that are sticking out along the sides. This rose is also prone to BS if conditions are right.

    sara_ann-z6bok thanked oldrosarian
  • 7 years ago

    My Beverly is huge 5' by 4' wide I'm cutting that baby down by half. I trimmed mine way down mid season last year and she thanked me by growing by double and producing dozens and dozens of beautiful blooms I can tell that my Beverly needs good haircuts and often


    sara_ann-z6bok thanked Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
  • 7 years ago
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    Thank you both. Kristine, do you have a picture of your Beverly?

  • 7 years ago

    Your photo is so beautiful Sara Ann!! Beverly really is a great rose

    sara_ann-z6bok thanked Lilyfinch z9a Murrieta Ca
  • 7 years ago

    I second that, that is a beautiful rose picture. It's funny, my Beverly is looking almost exactly the same. One low branch kind of bend down and then started to grow back up, so now it looks like two separate plants, which is totally fine by me. Plus that low branch tends to be covered on snow and ends up well insulated, so it keeps sending up tall shoots. This year I am going to take advantage of that and try to entice one or two more branches to do the same and give me a really big bushy look. The Lichfield Angel next to my Beverly will need to move though, which is just as well. I would like to add a more reddish rose there anyways.

    sara_ann-z6bok thanked marcindy
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    Beverly planted 2017

    This is about aug 2018 after a big haircut.

  • 7 years ago
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    Kristine,

    that one plant is both Beauty and the Beast!


    Sara-Ann

    Yours looks great too.


    Marcindy

    Come to think of it , my plant is lopsided too, maybe a trait of Beverly. But she blooms heavily, smells great and requires no care, so all good.

    sara_ann-z6bok thanked BenT (NorCal 9B Sunset 14)
  • 7 years ago
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    Thank you so much everyone! Kristine, yours looks huge and those blooms are gorgeous! I planted mine in 2015, I think, I’ve never pruned it very much, but it is very healthy, never any blackspot here.

  • 4 years ago

    Any thoughts of pegging a few Beverlys along a fence? And how might she do in mostly dappled - not heavy - shade? I am coveting the full soft pink bloom and repeat blooming abiliity!

  • 4 years ago

    Hi Beverly planting folks, wondering how tall she gets in your garden? HMF says: Height: 31" to 6'7" (80 to 200cm). Width: 2' to 47" (60 to 120cm). That is quite variance. I am in east coastal Virginia zone 8. How big could I expect her to grow with regular pruning?

    Thanks very much!

  • 4 years ago

    OK, I did end up planting three Beverlies in a kind of semi-circle - but only 2-3 ft apart. Am I going to need to move them this winter to spread them out further? I don't mind them growing into each other to look "hedgish", but don't want to them competing with each other for water, nutrients or sun either.

  • 4 years ago
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    @forever_a_newbie_VA8

    @Liz Bell

    I have 2 Beverly. I am zone 6, NY Fingerlakes area. I have her on south side of home and she is 5+ ft !!!!!! Long canes w/ huge gigant buds 2nd year!!!!! She is about 4-5 feet wide.

    I would not transplant any roses now as it is time for frosts, unless Liz you live in a very warm climate like CA ir Arizona? I would transplant the Beverly, space them out to have 4-5 ft width to grow. If you live in a climate that is not humid, so you don’t get black spot, you can let them grow overlaping a little…. but usually its recommended 4 ft. (BTW, she doesnt get BS.) She is small maybe first year, but 2nd year end she is big and thick caned and needs room. I love her hardy vigorous growth! Winter hardy-YES! !


    I pruned her beginning 2nd year to 1 foot and sge’s a giant 5+ft now. Next spring I may prune her to 2 ft. With winter canes die back…. I usually prune all my roses to 6 inches to 2 ft.


    It is considered a good rule of horticulture thumb to prune back only 1/3 at one time. I prune 1/3 off now before winter so long canes don’t break in freezing winter wind. Then I prune off dead wood in spring which may be 1/3 or more if needed.

  • 4 years ago

    Kitty, thanks very much for such good information! I got my Beverly in a 2 gallon pot and already put her in ground. She is about 2 feet now. Maybe I will wait till spring to give her a light prune and see how she does next year

  • 4 years ago
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    @forever_a_newbie_VA8

    You are welcome. As you are 1-2 zones warmer than me, Beverly has the potential to grow 5-6ft by end of second year..However, in dappled shade can greatly reduce her growth. Mine has 6-8 hours sun and grows 5-6ft.

    I have a Bliss rose, Kordes, in full 6 hrs sun, grows 5-6 ft by end of first year-very happy. I have a Bliss in 3/4 shade dappled sun grew 2 ft by end of first year. I am definitely transplanting the second Bliss to full sun! She will bloom more and I need to see her flourish.

    Beverly didnt get BS, but shes in full sun. If you see yours have any BS or mildew or not grow as well as you’d like then she may need transplanted to more sun. She seems really disease resistant, though.


    My Beverly blooms throughout 2nd season….









    A week ago, Oct 30, she was 5-6 feet, canes all need pruned, but they all had really big 5” diameter blooms so I was waiting until they all bloomed before pruning them…. they are dangling over…. With enough sun she also has super fragrant blooms!

    She’s 2 years old now!


  • 4 years ago

    Kitty, again thanks very much. It looks like sunlight is crucial for Beverly to grow fast, stay healthy and bloom well. will keep that in mind. Happy weekend!

  • 4 years ago
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    @forever_a_newbie_VA8 I posted more photos of her…. above…. Houzz is jumping around… so I saved it several times….

  • 4 years ago
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    Thank you! Have a wonderful weekend!

  • 4 years ago

    Kitty, 5” blossom! that is huge and the soft pink color is very beautiful! the flowers are a bit nodding, like English roses. it is great to hear rhey are healthy for you.

  • 4 years ago
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    Foreveranewbie, The canes on Eleganza Beverly are soooo long they are falling over. I really need to prune her. She usually stands up tall w/ canes. Blooms are pretty classic elegant on it’s hybrid tea form; however, they sometimes ruffle up. Enjoy! She is one of my most dependable bloomers! She can get pretty grand in blooms, fragrance, and height!