I have never used Neem seed as amendment . i heard of using oil on leaves for black spot but not on your topic.
Bumping this thread up for experts to see !
jin

Thanks Jin! I decided to go ahead and order it since I have not had time to spray with neem oil (it has done nothing here but rain). I decided to give it a whirl and see how my plants respond to it.

Let us know how it works, I have been eyeing it on amazon for a while now but have not pulled the trigger.

Where did you read about neem amendments ? I looked and searched but all I got is about oil.
We do get tons of rain here and last year I experience the worst Bec it was my first year of growing roses.
I was doing weekly amendments for deficiency and other diseases. When combine it just makes it so much harder and very challenging. I hate dailynon stop rains that lasted for months and months.
I hope this year my roses will not get so much stress from rain.
Let us know how it goes and steps involved.
jin

Plumeria, I found videos on need seed on youtube, so you might want to check there. Here are some links to other resources

neem seed meal

I am going to try it this year!

Probably heard it from me. I have been using neem seed meal as part of my soil making process along with bone, blood, alfalfa, kelp, and fishbone meal, along with a bunch of other stuff for over 10 years now. I started sharing my secret 3 or so years ago. Funny but I never tried it on my roses or outside for that matter. Its a very expensive mix. I was having problems with spider mites in my indoor gardens, and after I started using neem seed meal in my soil mix I have not seen a single spider mite. Its been 10 or 12 years now. Works 100%

I have gnats Bec of manure and also other flies. I mixed it with alfalfa hay and other natural plants like seaweed. So far so good but I have yet to see when raining season comes. Thanks for sharing your secret with us.
jin

oh, kelp is your friend. Use it all over. Kelp meal I get from the local elevator. Food grade. They feed animals with it. Secrets out now.

For gnats let soil dry out as much as possible. They dont like dry. Also a inch or more of sand on top will keep them at bay as well. Yahoo it if you have not already.

Coast of Maine has most if not all of these products. They are a god send if your not familiar with them.

Abraham x, what type of soil do you have up Coast of Maine ?
Well, I will be sending a sample of my soil for analysis. I am really curious to know where I stand Bec I actually have sand. Everything erodes away.
I got this Azomite last year when another Rosarian recommended to me. I used it once until now you reminded me again. Thank you !
I tried to get more seaweeds but the Red Tide was in FL so that shot the idea.
I been reading a lot about Neem trees and it's benefits.
I also used blood meal and bone meal. Last year , I sow green manure. I grew Red Clover which I have to start all over again Bec my Gardener mow it down when it was grass height. Also weed whacked wherever he sees it in my beds. So, it never grew dried up and I left it as it is...lol
Abraham , you been doing this for many years. I just started a little over a year ago. Azomite, seaweeds came later like around after June last year.
So, you have a great formula while I am still figuring it out.
I am bad when it comes to water. I don't saved it 24 hours . I try to remember to get rainwater.
I also have a well. Another analysis I need to send but I don't used it at all so I keep forgetting about it.

I am glad you have a formula and thank you for sharing. I will try to follow it next time. It does sounds complicated right now but after a few times I think I might get a hang of it.
Thank you again !!!!
jin

What is a greensand ?
I try to find kelp at the beach but was unsuccessful maybe I might go to feed store like you suggested. But seaweeds take faster to decomposed and kelp which I have to chop it in smaller pieces. I used liquid seaweed mostly since I bought 8 bottles. I don't like the smell of fish fertilizer. and I hate wet black cow manures. I noticed the rain gets into the bags. I just used it last week and it was wet...yuk !
jin

Thank you all for your responses and especially to Abraham for your formula.

I did try it on my roses and other plants in my garden this year. I do have gnats (that it was supposed to keep away, even though it is not an insecticide). I don't recall seeing as many gnats as I do this year, but it has also been an incredibly rainy year and I could just chock it up to that.

I can't tell if it has had an impact on my plants or not. I have lots of buds ready or getting ready to burst, but I also had more time to do things in my garden as well as a long, cool and wet spring, so again, who is to say what is causing the buds to be more numerous this year than other years.

I do know that neem seed has quite the odor. Woweeee! It is like burnt garlic with a little bit of rancid peanut butter and a hint of cinnamon. It reeks! If it keeps away any insects it is because of the smell (again, it is not an insecticide). However, I have noticed a decrease in aphids but again, we have had a long, cool, rainy spring and that could be the reason. It is hard to say.

My plants have never looked better, however or whatever the cause is and for that, I am grateful. I have read that people eat neem seeds. If they smell like the meal (which in this case is entirely made up of the seeds), wow! More power to them! I don't think I could get past the scent of them in order to digest them. Although some folks don't think it smells bad or has much of an odor. Isn't it nice to know how individual everyone nose is? Great thing!