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looking for info on this desk and bookshelf

7 years ago

Does anyone know what time period this desk is from or value? thanks

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  • 7 years ago

    inside pic

  • 7 years ago

    I think that is known as a Secretary. The top half is designed for writing correspondence and paying bills. The bottom drawers are for storing whatever.

  • 7 years ago

    I'm no expert, but it does appear quite old. It's pretty cool!

    Does it have a secret compartment, I wonder?

  • 7 years ago

    My mom has a huge beautiful antique secretary she bought before I was born, I think, and I also had a smallish one in my bedroom as a child. We kids were always charmed by the secret compartments.

  • 7 years ago

    Just guessing based on middling to fair knowledge of antiques, I’d say 1880s maybe.

    Interestingly, the two door panels appear to have been carved by different people. On the left in the photo, the large flowers have 12 petals, while on the right they have 16. The triangles formed by the edges of the central diamond, the outside edges and the margins around the large daisies are larger on the left door than on the right door, with smaller little divots edging them on the left door. And the small “propellers” at the top and bottom of the large central daisy would spin clockwise on the left door and anticlockwise on the right door.

  • 7 years ago

    Nice....has "green man" peering out....

    Likely 1900 ish....and looks maybe European? Where did you get it? Walnut I think, can't tell for sure on the doors. As has been said a secretary desk.


  • 7 years ago

    Is that a Green Man or Sol the Sun?

  • 7 years ago

    There is a possibility that one of the doors is a replacement and the person did not pay attention to the details. The door with the crack in it bothers me. Part of the decoration that shows around the diamond on the deeper carved one is missing on half of the diamond on the other one. While part of it is older I am not convinced that it is not a made up piece. The interior does not match the exterior with the interior being so delicate.

  • 7 years ago

    It's hand carved.....I have no problem what so ever with the disparity between the2 doors....nor the split...door panels do that if they are not allowed to freely float in the frame.
    I would like to see the back and the dovetailing on the drawers in the base and the interior of the little drawers in the top part. appears to have had a specific use in mind because of all the possible shelf placements.
    And Yes, Colleen...think you are right...old Sol!

  • 7 years ago

    thanks for helping

  • 7 years ago

    inside

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    7 years ago

    The style of carving is meant to be Elizabethan.

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    For the left and right large 'flowers', I count 16 petals for both figures.

    As for the left and right 'propellers', a left hand and right hand design would be proper balance for the left and right sides.

    The large central flowers and propellers are encircled with a curb. Notice the overlaps where the curbing crosses itself. The left and right designs are mirror images of each other, again, very proper detail.

    Moving down to the drawers, the drawer knobs appear to be originals - very nice. Although this piece has a cracked panel in one door and large cracks in the back, it's frontal decoration has great appeal. I like it.

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Sorry I wasn't clearer jemdandy, I'm talking about the large flowers in the corners of each door. All the ones on the left door have 12 petals, and those on the right door have 14, now that I count more carefully.

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Colleenoz, you are observant. I too, count 14 petals on the 4 corner flowers of the right door, and the corner flowers of the left door have 12 petals. That raises the question, why? Was one of these doors made at a different date. maybe with a revised pattern.

    There is another possibility. This could have been a code for identifying left and right doors. The wood strip on the hinge side may be slightly wider than that of the opposite side. The edges of the doors where they meet (at the center of the cabinet) may have different detail. We do not have photos of that. If stacks of doors got mixed, a factory worker needed a way of identifying left and right doors.

    It is possible to take 2 right hand doors and turn one over, place it on the left and then install the hardware. It would seem correct except all the propellers would show the same spin direction.

    A remote possibility: These two doors are from two different secretaries that were made in different factory runs, but, what is the possibility that a sales shop would have had more than one of these?

    This is a case where one needs to examine the actual piece to look for quirks and clues.

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