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new roof and siding re-do colors not as anticipated

Hello color aficiando's. I recently had my roof and siding replaced with Owens Corning Oak Ridge in color Teak; siding in Certainteed Monogram 4 inch Savannah Wicker and new white gutters. The new color combination did not turn out as I had anticipated. The siding is too light, with a yellowish tinge. The house faces west. I am considering changing the siding to a different color, perhaps Mastic Pebblestone Clay? The roof and white windows will not be changed anytime soon. The garage door and front door will be changed once the final siding color is determined. New landscaping is coming this Fall.


Questions:

1. Would Pebblestone Clay (or similar color) blend better with the brick and roof?

2. Is the horizontal direction of the siding on the gable and above the garage the most aesthetically pleasing? See photo of attached original gable siding in a "V" pattern and vertical above the garage; and a house with siding above garage in an inverted "V" pattern.


I'm open to other color and siding pattern suggestions.


before redo of roof and siding


after redo of new roof and siding


original 1958 gable siding "V" pattern



House with inverted "V" pattern above garage-- hard to see siding pattern on gable end


close up of my brick... more orange-ish than red with harvest gold and olive green-ish bricks scattered throughout



Thanks for your input.

Comments (49)

  • 7 years ago

    "v" pattern siding on gable


  • 7 years ago

    This is Pebblestone Clay:


  • 7 years ago

    Thanks Groveraxle. When I picked the color wicker from the Certainteed website color photo app, it didn't appear as light in color as it ended up once it was put on the house. Maybe it's the roof color that is throwing the color of the siding off? Gulp! Your thoughts?

  • 7 years ago
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    I think the Pebblestone clay with a wider siding would look better, as shown above. The 4” siding in the gable appears too narrow for a space with no other feature to break up all those small lines. That’s my impression. Maybe in real life it looks better.

    ETA: did they give you a siding chip sample?

    livinginthebubble thanked Anna (6B/7A in MD)
  • 7 years ago

    Oh dear. Unfortunate you chose a brown roof. Should have gone charcoal or black. But, it's done. I find adding another colour for your trangular siding is odd. From the front of your house, that colour doesn't appear anywhere else. I would either replace it or paint it white. You already have white around your windows and above your garage. I also find that gable hangs really low. Your house would look much better if you extended that gable further out to create a covered porch, then open it up so that its vaulted when you're standing under it. Support it with a couple chunky posts.

    livinginthebubble thanked Brown Dog
  • 7 years ago

    Anna,

    I had samples for the siding. It was a poor color choice on my part. It's hard to tell from small chips so I painted a poster board the color wicker and it looked darker. If that siding is replaced, it will be 5 inches.


    Brown Dog,

    Oh dear is right! I initially thought charcoal grey but thought the grey or black would look too cool against the warm orange, gold and olive in my brick. I also thought about Certainteed driftwood shingles? The gable is very low indeed. I had quotes to open up the gable and extend it forward but that required applying for variances from the city and the cost for that remodel was adding up quickly. But, I may be able to do something similar to the picture below. Before the next step, I want to be cautious and not continue to throw good money after bad.



  • 7 years ago

    I like it, goes well with the lighter shade in brick.

  • 7 years ago

    Thanks happyleg. I'm not certain exactly what you like? Is it the open gable, the light siding color, the black/gray roof color, or all of the elements on the entire front of the house (porch excluded)?

  • 7 years ago

    Is that really brick, or stucco, painted like brick?

  • 7 years ago

    I like the pebblestone better than the wicker but I don’t think it would be a big enough improvement to justify replacing the brand new siding. I think both are pretty ho-hum. I would maybe go darker.


    If the gable is the only siding you might consider upgrading to a fiber cement or composite siding in a wider exposure (5-6”) which you could paint any color vs limiting yourself to the vinyl selection.

  • 7 years ago

    If you with with the Pebblestone, I would paint the garage door the same color, and paint the fascia and gutters dark.


  • 7 years ago

    I like grovers color change. I agree if you are going to change the siding go with something paintable. This is how we treated our triangle.



  • 7 years ago

    Oliviag/ bring back Sophie -- yes, it is really brick from the late 1950's. It's very different


    jessupjl06 -- great idea to change the gable to a paintable material. The gable is the only siding on the front of the house. The back of the house has a very small bumpout that is sided as well, (odd), approximately 15 ft by 1 ft. That area has not been sided yet b/c I'm so disappointed with the current siding color. If I went with paintable gable material, what to do with the soffit material that is currently the wicker color?


    groveraxle - definitely getting a new garage door! I wanted to wait until I decided on a final color for the siding before moving forward with the new doors. I debated between keeping the gutters and fascia white to match the windows (also suggested by several architects... not saying they are "right" or "wrong") or going darker as you suggested, which I like. I really dislike that gable all together and was thinking going darker without trimming it in white, may make it blend in better. Unfortunately, I think the roof color is also contributing to the overall color scheme problem. Agh.


    Newenglandgardenerct - Very nice house! The white trim looks really crisp and clean. Great job!!



  • 7 years ago

    The soffit can stay wicker pending what color you want to do the siding. Is the soffit aluminum or wood? Realistically you could paint either material and I like Grover’s idea of going dark here if you go with the pebble siding color.


    A wood grain paintable siding will be double price of vinyl material but with such little siding material on your home it shouldn’t add that much cost.


    I like the darker siding color in the photo posted above as well.

  • 7 years ago

    jessupjl06 -- the soffit is vinyl so not really paintable. I agree with you the small amount of siding needed on the gable is worth having a paintable wood grain composite. This is the direction I am now going with the gable. I'm hoping a different color on the gable will tie the house and roof together a bit better?

  • 7 years ago

    If you go with paintable siding, maybe it and the garage door should be the same color as the roof or just a bit lighter. I also added a trim board at the bottom of the gable, painted dark like the rest of the fascia, to give it a more finished look.



  • 7 years ago

    Thanks Anna. Very interesting. I'll have to ask my painter what he thinks about this product. It may be worth painting the soffits, since they are more protected than the west facing, open to the elements, gable.

  • 7 years ago

    I would use a light gray very similar to the roof.

  • 7 years ago

    Thanks felizlady but in real life the roof is actually very brown, with specks of orange. It's sometimes hard to tell on the computer screen.

  • 7 years ago

    The more I look at the pictures, the more I think the roof is playing a large part of the color disconnect between the siding and the brick?

  • 7 years ago

    Another option- We have a similar roof color and recently installed a green siding, color “quiet willow” ..we used LP smartside but they make this is vinyl as well. If you are open to a color pop it might work especially since you have green in the brick.

  • 7 years ago

    jessupjl06 - I am open to any color that will compliment the brick and as much as possible, the roof too. I will look into "quiet willow". I went to the LP website and could not find their vinyl siding product, only Smart Siding.

  • 7 years ago
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    Correct, LP is only smartside, we used a prefinisher who offered quiet willow as a standard color. MASTIC also offers this color in their vinyl. Below is what it looks like on our house (work in progress).


    Side note- I really like Grover’s latest rendering as well with the dark brown gable.



  • 7 years ago

    Have you considered painting the brick?


  • 7 years ago

    groveraxle, your painted brick picture looks aesthetically pleasing. However, at this time, I have hesitation with painting the brick. I currently looking at siding in color Heatherstone (Certainteed) . It appears slightly darker than the Pebblestone Clay with a gold or more brown undertone? This weekend, I'm going to the distributor to look at LP smartsiding that can be custom painted.

  • 7 years ago

    Thanks for the idea. New landscaping is in the works after the issue of the roof and siding are solved. I have plans for a new porch. One is extending the porch lengthwise under the front window as you have drawn. Long story short, the caveat is it cannot be a "permanent structure" requiring footings due to city code.

  • 7 years ago

    This is a new rendering with weathered wood shingles and hearthstone siding. I'm playing with the roofing options, going back/forth between a mid tone brown or a gray. The brick is very warm orange/red, with a smattering of gold and olive bricks.


  • 7 years ago

    I thought you just replaced your roof?

  • 7 years ago

    Yes, I just replaced the roof and the siding a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, I am not happy with the colors of either one of them (roof and siding). At first, I was thinking of just replacing the siding but the more I looked at the roof, I thought it may be a big contributor the whole picture of color dislike. I wasn't in favor of the new color Teak that I ended up with. Initially, I wanted more weathered wood or driftwood color. In the event I replace the roof, I am curious if mid tone brown or gray would look better with the brick? The final decision of replacing just the siding alone or replacing both the roof and the siding will come down to the overall cost. Cost vs. happiness ratio.

  • 7 years ago

    Claire Larece -- I really like your drawing for the front porch... some MCM flair!

  • 7 years ago
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    Thank you livinginthebubble will you be removing the siding in front of gable? I would definitely leave it open and add iron trusses that would go with the iron flair with wood design rail.

  • 7 years ago

    Opening of the gable could be an option. Please see thread above from yesterday where I posted a photo with the a similar idea, if I am understanding you correctly?

  • 7 years ago

    I'm paring down the options for the new siding color. One of the options is Certainteed, color Hearthstone. It is the long siding sample in the taupe-y color, resting on the ledge of the picture window sill. Any comments on moving in this color direction to replace the siding in the gable (much lighter and yellow-ish) over the window? The gable faces due West and receives quite a bit of afternoon direct sunlight. Also, should the new gable siding be 5" horizontal or in a vertical oriented fashion? Thanks for your input.


  • 7 years ago

    I do prefer the proposed hearthstone color over the existing siding color. I am indifferent on lap vs board&batten.

    livinginthebubble thanked jessupjl06
  • 7 years ago

    Yes I seen porches with wood planks, very nice. Earthy colors,like gray/green,olive.

    livinginthebubble thanked happyleg
  • 7 years ago

    The problem I see is that the siding just stops at the bottom in mid-air. That gable needs a board running across the bottom, like a beam, to give visual solidity (and break up the excess of tan). The board should be 8" to 12" tall and painted the color of the trim. It could also use a few supporting posts.

  • 7 years ago

    Tatts, yes, a support post is an option that I'm looking into.

  • 7 years ago
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    Although I like the new siding color choice better, I really do think opening up the gable would be a wonderful option if it is economically feasible. The closed gable feels so heavy and disproportionate to the size of the house.

  • 7 years ago

    @katinparadise- I couldn't agree with you more about that ugly gable! This isn't my forever home, so I have to keep that in mind.

  • 7 years ago

    Why not paint the whole house ...it's not the roof ..although you should have used a gray color ...it's the brick ..to my eyes . I would find out which color you are stuck with ..then paint the whole house that color . And add a terrace in front or open up the windows ...make it bigger ...

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Hi livinginthe bubble,

    I did a 3d visual so you could see my thoughts on your home. I actually think you should take the siding off in the front add towards the back and the trusses in front. Had a complication with doing the gable on the left side so don't copy the boo boo.



  • 7 years ago

    @Claire, Thanks for the visual! I like it. However, I'm not certain that structural change is in my current budget? There are other house maintenance issues needing to be addressed too. i.e. new landscape, driveway and exterior doors.

  • 7 years ago

    Thank you @livinginthebubble its not much of structure redo just a addition

  • 7 years ago

    @Claire, That's good to know. Getting a quote won't hurt. Once the siding is removed, and gable opened, what material would be behind the trusses against the house since the brick does not go `above the picture window? More siding?

  • 7 years ago

    @Claire, The arrows point to the area in question of your photo; what material would one see when looking thru and post the trusses? Thanks!


  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    @livinginthebubble supposed to be wood.

    livinginthebubble thanked User
  • 7 years ago

    @groveraxle, I am giving more thought into staining the brick versus painting. Do you have any suggestions regarding the color of stain since the roof will remain its current color (Owens Corning, Oak Ridge, color Teak)? The siding is still going to either be replaced or painted regardless of what I do with the brick.

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