Cluster?

Ditto on what Kristine said...

You would have to post clear pics of your rose bush for a ID...leaves etc. blooms...

Hi, I am trying to post a picture of this rose - old ?

I’ll take a wild guess since I’ve Had a rose with those long shaped leaves. Go to Help Me Find roses. Type in Gartendirektor Otto Linne then click the photo tab. On about the third page there are photos from Quail Haven Farms. This photo shows the flowers and leaves that yours does.

Thanks for trying. If I knew what to call these really long clusters, I might could find this rose. These clusters don't really show well in the picture. They are 2 to 3 feet long. The buds or roses are really small. The attractiveness is in the extra long brackets. When several of these come out, this rose is really beautiful. It wasn't Gartendirektor Otto Linne , but I so appreciate trying. I could send bigger pictures, but gardenweb won't let me post making me make the pic smaller.

Looks like it could be Excellenz von Schubert. https://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/pl.php?n=1758 If you could upload clearer pictures showing leaves, flowers, stems that would help. What about scent? There are apparently quite a few nurserys that sell Gartendirektor Otto Linne with the name Excellenz von Schubert since they are similar and got mixed up somewhere along the lines. So it can be hard to acquire the real EvS. The difference is, EvS has totally thornless stems with prickles only on the backs of the leaves. EvS is mauve. GOL has thorns and is pink. I got the real EvS from Burlington and will add pictures of mine here soon. Also, I don't know if GOL does this, but EvS flowers close up at night and open during the day. EvS is also quite fragrant, sweet smelling with some old rose mixed in.

I think I have stumped the experts. The extra long spray (I will try to use the word spray) has very small flowers. It seems the GOL and the Excellenz von Schubert have med to large roses. I'll get my husband to take more pics tomorrow. Thanks for helping with this puzzle.

That is not correct. Both of them have extremely small flowers certainly no more than an inch across. I would also guess g o l or EVS. I only have the former.. before I cropped the first picture it looked exactly like yours.

wow! this beautiful and different.. I have never seen these roses....

Here is my EvS. The flowers are an inch across. Mine is a baby, in the ground 8 months and started as own-root 6 inch band, so the flower clusters are small. The last two pictures show same flowers in evening and morning first rays of sun. You can see how they open and close each day.

Here is better picture of the leaves with an old flower cluster. You can see EvS has 7 leaflets per leaf. The leaves are shining, very slightly wrinkled and each leaflet is pointed oval. Some roses have almost round leaflets. These are just some things to look for when trying to make an ID.

For the visual thank you. Those leaves are very distinctive so it seems clear I have gol. Now I need to get EVS! I got mine from a r e, BTW.

Carol, take a look at Dorothy Perkins or, the newer, Super Dorothy.

Vaporvac, I got EvS from Burling only after asking for her personal favorite thornless rose. Otherwise I had never heard of it before. It was only later I found out that many nurseries sell GOL labeled as EvS. EvS has such healthy foliage in my yard and grew so fast compared to many others!

A few things that I‘m fairly sure are correct. The GOL that I had was very healthy at a time when I did not use fungicides. My EVS ( If the right cultivar) was not winter hardy here for me. So not many memories of that one.

GOL did not close its flowers at night. It sat next to the Kordes rose Silver Ghost who did close its flowers. I can still remember scooping the jbs out of the closed flower. Occasionally surprised instead by a bee.

Super Dorthy was a disease magnet here and all of her individual flower petals quilled. Don’t really like quilling. Had a yellow Buck rose that did this also.