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No ID Hoya, supposedly a Carnosa

7 years ago
last modified: 7 years ago

Given to me last Spring, just found it's grown a new vine w/ tiny leaves. Very thick leaves, a bit veiny against the light (doesn't show in the pix).


I like its ripply leaves.


Look forward to seeing what it does.

Comments (27)

  • 7 years ago

    Looks like carnosa. The ripply leaves are because of the growing conditions not genetics.

    Karen S. (7b, NYC) thanked Nil13 usda:10a sunset:21 LA,CA (Mount Wash.)
  • 7 years ago

    Warning you that plant grows at a sloooooow rate. Watch for new growth all over the plant. They can lie dormant

  • 7 years ago
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    laurie_basler's ideas · More Info

    It reminds me of my leaves on Hoya carnosa Chelsea

  • 7 years ago




    Similar to my Hoya, I think Hoya obovata or something but not even the shop owner knew exactly

  • 7 years ago

    I did a google search for Hoya species and I like Hoya macgillivrayi based upon the leaves, which are too big and round for carnosa, but I may not know of all variations.

  • 7 years ago

    I think I might have that one too, but it is a very nice one Karen, good for you)

    Karen S. (7b, NYC) thanked Meyermike(Zone 6a Ma.)
  • 7 years ago
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    It could be H. obovata. The flowers would let you know for sure.

    IDK about Hoya being slow. Mine grow like wildfire.

    Karen S. (7b, NYC) thanked Nil13 usda:10a sunset:21 LA,CA (Mount Wash.)
  • 7 years ago
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    Yay Denise,

    Was hoping you'd drop by & see this. Interesting ID, Krinkle 8 is an early favorite of mine, but I've never grown it, just admired it.

    In my 2nd pic, the leaf at the 5 o'clock position is practically bent / angled; in that shot one's looking almost as if it's into a corner. I hope to take a couple more pix, leaves are very variable.

    My Obovatas have had tear shaped leaves, which this doesn't. Those leaves are very flat, which these are not.

    Yes, the dent is reminiscent of H Chelsea, of which I have a small piece.

    Nil, am in an apartment, don't often have Hoyas bloom. Have bloomed Kerrii, but that's all. Curious why you suggest the ripples are conditions, rather than genetics, which would have been my assumption.

    Do Hoyas go dormant? I've got 2 small ones that have done nothing for 2 yrs & one of them just woke up, it's from MeyerMike, I suspect it's Obovata, but he said he'd lost some of his ID tags. I've wondered abt these 2 Hoyas, why they've looked fine but done absolutely nothing; perplexing.

    ETA: need another pic, the new growth is dark burgundy / brown, coooool.

  • 7 years ago

    Glad you have an ID. Wishing you blooms galore.


    Karen S. (7b, NYC) thanked Laurie (8A)
  • 7 years ago

    It’s a carnosa. I have one and i prune it very regularly and it promotes growth like that. If you want, i can post a pic

  • 7 years ago

    The ripples show up on mine when they need water.

    Hoyas are cool season dormant.

    Hoya leaves can be very variable on the same plant. I have obovatas with completely round leaves, leaves with dimples on the ends, and points on the ends on the same stem.

    Karen S. (7b, NYC) thanked Nil13 usda:10a sunset:21 LA,CA (Mount Wash.)
  • 7 years ago

    Is this the one people call by the common name Wax plant?

  • 7 years ago
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    Interesting Nil, thx somehow that surprises me (rippling from thirst). I hadn't known non-Carnosas could be so leaf-variable as you're suggesting w/ your Obovata.

    Night time pix, but I couldn't resist, now having seen the new growth darken. New pix:



    Look how 3D & angular this leaf is.


    Sorry Hosta LV, I don't know.

  • 7 years ago

    I also think that the main reason people that keep hoyas as houseplants have trouble blooming them is that the plants don't get a cold, dry winter dormancy.

    Karen S. (7b, NYC) thanked Nil13 usda:10a sunset:21 LA,CA (Mount Wash.)
  • 7 years ago

    i agree! And also people cut the peduncle!!! hoya flowers from the same peduncle over and over that’s why no one should ever cut the peduncle of a hoya.

  • 7 years ago

    Thx for trying Mike, but unless they're Newbies, I'd guess most folks who grow Hoyas know not to remove spent peduncles.

  • 7 years ago

    In my experience, some Hoyas do go completely dormant in the late fall, but many just slow down considerably. BUT, when it comes to new Hoyas, meaning ones you are importing into your environment from a radically different environment, like for me bringing a rooted Hoya into Nebraska from Florida, it almost always throws it into a long term dormancy. A year or more. A cutting I have no problem getting to grow as soon as it roots. But if it's already rooted... be prepared to wait and wait and wait!!


    Denise in Omaha

    Karen S. (7b, NYC) thanked Denise
  • 7 years ago

    Yeah they do

  • 7 years ago

    I am so glad to read this about hoya cuttings verses rooted plants. I knew this was true for me and wondered why. I have a lot of plants I started from cuttings and have noticed they are so much hardier and put out more growth than the others. If there is a reason for this I would love to hear it described.


  • 6 years ago

    Looks like h. Carnosa Krinkle 8


    good luck!

  • 6 years ago

    I have Chelsea, Krinkle 8 and Obovata. All three have bloomed so I know they're labeled correctly. Let me try to post photos.

  • 6 years ago

    Well I was able to post a photo from my Mac last week with no problem but now I can't!

  • 6 years ago

    Here is mine that was given to me as a 'Chelsea'.

  • 6 years ago

    I have leaves like that in my carnosa at work that grows in water.

  • 6 years ago

    Both Krinke 8 and Chelsea are cultivars of carnosa, and it's not uncommon for cultivars (or sports) to produce growth that is more reminiscent of the species than the cultivar. I would probably just call it a carnosa since it doesn't have the defined ripple of Krinkle 8...


    Denise in Omaha

  • 6 years ago

    I've had a variety of carnosa go dormant for a year, but I also have other varieties--Publicayx (sp) that seem to grow a lot faster than carnosa.

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