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Chandelier or Can lighting?

7 years ago

You are all always so helpful, I have another dilemma, and I am hoping you can help me decide. Our kitchen is going to be open to our dining room in the new design. We are not doing any pendants Over the island because my husband is tall and we have 8 foot ceilings. But, I am feeling conflicted about not doing a chandelier over the dining room table. This is a rough estimate of the layout, my marker drawing is not to scale, just so you have an idea. And this is a pic of the dining room from the current kitchen...and yes, I am letting my children draw on the walls before demo.

Comments (86)

  • 7 years ago

    And it’s on sale :)

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    The real measurement you are going to have to pay the closest attention to is the height of the chandelier. Your table is good sizes and can handle a large light but it cant be too tall due to your By height I don't mean the drop down of chain or pole I mean the actual measurement of the chandelier. For a linear shape chandelier and an 8' ceiling I think you are going to need to stay at 24' or less if your table height is around 36'.

  • 7 years ago

    These are the measurements for the PB one...if you need 18 inches to hang it and the canopy and celieng mount are one inch each, then it’s about 16 inches...so that would work and then we can adjust the height based on what we like??

    DIMENSIONS
    Small Rectangular
    Overall: 30" long x 9" deep x 80" high
    Hanging Height: 18" minimum, 90" maximum.
    Canopy: 18" long x 4" deep x 1" high
    Ceiling mount: 18" long x 4" deep x 1" high
    Chain (2): 6

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    For the pottery barn Clarissa chandelier you would want the large 40" one based on the length of your table 86- 40 =46 / 2 =23" of space at each end of table which is good. The depth of the chandelier 9" is narrow 42-9=33 / 2 =16.5" on each side. You will be fine as it appears the height is doable as well.

  • 7 years ago

    DIS, thank you soooo much! I really like this one, and the sale they have right now is great, plus it’s tax free weekend in MA, so no sales tax :)

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    I have used the chandelier many times and it is a statement piece for sure. It will look nice with your dark table and chairs. For a glass chandelier you really can't beat the price.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Oh and if you haven't already I urge you to look at the customer submitted photos on their web site of the chandelier .

  • 7 years ago

    Do you think it’s too heavy looking? We had a much smaller PB chandelier in the past. I worry that the shell style ones are too flowy for me, but I don’t love the bad style ones either.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Bad style ones? I think the Clarissa lends to a more formal look with the glass drops than a shell one would. Are you wanting to keep it more casual or dressy?

  • 7 years ago

    It’s supposed to say box style...ugh autocorrect!

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    While I like the PB one, it feels quite heavy in look for your beachy look. Sale price is nice, but only if it really works in your room. Tables are about 30” high and you will want yours hung around 30-32” above your table to bottom of chandelier. You have 96” from floor to 8’ ceiling so that leaves about 33” for chandelier. I like at least 12” of chain from ceiling so actual height of the body of fixture needs to be 22” or less.

  • 7 years ago

    The table is probably the most formal piece of furniture we own, and it’s not that formal. Everything else is casual with a subtle coastal vibe. This is the color palette for the kitchen, or somewhere thereabouts.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Based on your woven shades alone , which I absolutely love, I don't think the PB one is the best fit. I still love the Capiz shell one Flo found , but understand that shells aren't everyones thing. Have you ever considered doing two round chandeliers? How do you feel about beads? Two bowl shaped chandeliers would be pretty over that table too. Let me find some BRB

  • 7 years ago

    I like the shell one, I just don’t live right on the ocean, so I can’t decide if it’s too beachy??
    I like the idea of two rounds...but they are laying out the lighting this week, so I would love to know where we are putting things, even if I don’t know exactly what we are doing.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    What about something casual like this? two of these over the long table would be nice and I like them with the other elements you've shares. Because the beading is white it would stay light and bright. I have the larger version of this in my office and I get so many compliments on it and well its dirt cheap to be frank!


  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Well I am two hours from the beach but still have a capiz shell chandelier. I wouldnt let your location necessarily determine your decor. Don't think of it as beauty think of it as coastal elegance ;-)

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Beachy not beauty LOL auto correct is not our friend today!

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Here are the two chandeliers in your room. I think the white beaded one DIS posted would look nice with your white wainscoting but you might need two with the length of your table?

  • 7 years ago
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    a rectangular cut capiz shell doesnt look quite as beachy as round shaped shells

    - West Elm https://www.westelm.com/products/large-rectangle-hanging-capiz-pendant-white-w696/?pkey=cchandeliers&isx=0.0.6916

    I've got this one.... Know that if windows are open on a breezy day, it will chime slightly.


  • 7 years ago

    Flo and DIS, you are both so helpful, thank you!
    Hubs likes the idea of one chandelier...and I try to a accommodate his ideas when I don’t really have an opinion, because I have a lot of opinions :)
    I think I am going to work with the idea of a single rectangular chandelier with an elegant, coastal vibe(credit to DIS for the swanky terminology)and just have the electricians plan for that...that will buy me some time to continue to look.
    DK, at first I thought that had too modern of a vibe for me, but maybe the rectangular shape ties it back to the table and the kitchen island.
    Thanks for all the help houzzers!

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Sure. Yes a rectangular shape (not too big across) with capiz drops would work really well. Yes just one fixture simplifies install tremendously.

  • PRO
    7 years ago
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    I have installed the West Elm one before. Its very pretty. I have to look up measurements it may be too short for an 86" table. If I recall correctly I installed it over a 76" table. One thing to keep in mind, unless they've changed it, each Capiz shell comes individually wrapped and it took about 3-4 solid hours to unwrap them!!!! It was a bear! But it is pretty especially with the lights on!

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Yes, the West Elm chandelier arrived assembled with each shell strand tucked into its own tiny ziplock bag.. Install the fixture first, and unwrap the shells afterward. You'll want a ladder and some upbeat music.

    We followed the same packing technique for when we moved....(Chandelier was a wedding present). I used small strips of blue painter's tape Not a single shell broke, thanks to God.

    I've got this hanging over a 84 inch table that extends to 120" I keep the table at 120 inches and the chandelier looks fine - it is centered

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Is the West Elm too wide across from side to side for your table. You need 9-12” open from side edge of chandelier to edge of table.

  • 7 years ago
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    Are you keeping those dining chairs or have you bought others? I'd want to repeat the lines of the dining chairs ...example

    This first one looks a little wide for the table, , but the swooping lines are lovely with the chair backs




    Or perhaps two of these ...



  • 7 years ago

    Yes, keeping the table and chairs...we’ve had it in two houses and it works with lighter design as long as everything else in the room is pretty light. I know it is a more traditional set, but I don’t think I want to go that traditional on the chandelier.

  • 7 years ago

    This was the chandelier we had in our last house, which I loved.

  • 7 years ago

    And my sister in law just suggested these...thoughts?

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Those are all nice fixtures but don’t quite fit with your table and ceiling height. A rectangular fixture that isn’t too formal looking is direction I suggest you stay in.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Pnp

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    I don't care for the rope in the first one and the second one is a favorite of mine but it doesn't work with your esthetic. I have some other options will be back.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    I have a question for you. What was it that you loved about your old chandelier? I have suggestions for you below. I think since your home is getting a new fresh look and your kitchen table light will be the only truly decorative piece of lighting in the space I would not skimp on placing something that is going to have some wow factor for you. Moving to a linear shape is going to help with that because it will have more presence. I think keeping it lighter in a nickel finish is going to help with your lower ceilings and keep it lighter which will enable you go a bit larger than you are likely used to. Here are some I pulled off of Houzz. There are so many out there. But sticking with the colonial feel of your chairs think about something simple like a lantern style


    Woodruff 6-Light Linear Chandelier, Polished Nickel · More Info


    Luxury Colonial Nickel Diamond Cube Chandelier, UQL2066, Charleston Collection · More Info


    Sylvan 8 Light Chandelier in Polished Nickel with White Silk · More Info

    This last one is beautiful up and its pushing it height wise but if you remove the shades it will keep it open and light. I actually have these in the square shape over my island and they are really pretty.



    Canarm ICH678A04BN30 Chandelier Brushed Nickel Kellan Brushed Nickel · More Info

    This one comes In nickel I just cant find the link on here



    Generation Lighting Lighting 8-Light Island Pendant, Blacksmith · More Info

    Or you can go with something that plays on the lantern style but has a more open presence

    Feiss Pentagram 8 Light Island, Satin Nickel/Polished Nickel · More Info


    Lisbon 8-Light Linear Chandelier, Antique Nickel · More Info


    Alister 8-Light Linear Chandelier Antique Nickel · More Info


    10-Light Polished Nickel Linear Chandelier · More Info


    Feiss 20 Light Norridge Linear, Distressed Fence Board/Distressed White · More Info


    Maxim Nexus Six Light Satin Nickel Drum Shade Chandelier · More Info

    I just wanted to throw these out there as they are have not been explored for you yet but their simplicity would be nice over your table.

  • 7 years ago

    DIS, thank you! Hub and I both really like this one!

  • 7 years ago

    Can we do frosted bulbs in that, or does it only work with clear?

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    You could do frosted if that is your preference. Or you could do clear and use a dimmer on the switch. You can see the lanterns here over my island and I have a clear bulb and no shades.



  • 7 years ago

    It will definitely be on a dimmer, so we can play around with bulbs and see what we like!
    Thanks again! This is a winner!

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    That will work and give plenty of light for those puzzles too!

  • 7 years ago

    Ha! We love our puzzles in the summer and the winter :)

  • 7 years ago

    And I found a coupon, so I don’t mind that it missed tax free weekend :)
    This is so great, thanks again for all of your help!

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    I was going to mention that there are other sites that have this fixture for less. Or I am happy to send you my Houzz 5% code. Which ever works for you.

  • 7 years ago

    Bellacor had a 20%, so the out the door price was $800, which I thought was a great deal!

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Wonderful! In my experience Bellacor is an easy vendor to work with as well. Win/Win!

  • 7 years ago

    Good to know! I will post an update when it’s in :)

  • 7 years ago

    Ok, so I decided I didn’t connect with that light and sent it back :(
    These are my current thoughts...

  • 7 years ago

    And these...any thoughts?

  • 7 years ago

    I have this one in my saved file


  • 7 years ago

    Devonfield, I love those in someone else’s space, but linear in my space, with my 8 foot ceilings, just didn’t work. I now know I need something round or oval, with something to soften the light, I don’t want to see bulbs if I can help it.

  • 7 years ago
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    Mom of three.... You posted seven chandeliers.

    Do you have interlocking oval glass kitchen cabinet details or something else to consider and replicate?

    If not, then the capiz shell wins IMO. It appears delicate and airy, and the design pattern does not fight with the classic airy backed chairs.


    -The beaded light wood chandeliers compete with the dark wood chairs. Do you have a light colored wood buffet in the room?

    -The crystal chandelier looks very heavy in comaprison to the airy thin railed chair backs.

    -The bubble drum is interesting. If you love it, then get it. I don't care for it as it reads to me like happiness (bubbles) constrained (severe shade covering it)

  • 7 years ago

    Thanks DK! I am having total analysis paralysis with this choice and my hardware. Plus my husband has his opinions too. Just making myself crazy...we are three weeks out from having a functional kitchen again, so I want to try to get as much done as possible. I was initially drawn to the capiz shell, I guess I worry that it is too obviously coastal, but I think I just need to get over that and order it! I need to get unstuck on this and the hardware, it’s make me nuts!

  • 7 years ago

    DK after lots of time with female relatives this weekend, we decided that the swooping lines of a traditional fixture is the best choice. Which you suggested eons ago :)
    Anyway, going to order this beauty from Pottery Barn and it’s going to be perfect. Thanks to everyone for your input and patience!