Wow, Carla, I would just surrender.

LOL, yes well PJPII keeps blooming, you just have to dig in there to see the roses. I bought the plant in person at Annie's Annuals, where the sign said it grows in shade, and I put it in between PJPII and Raspberry Blanket for some cute little blue flowers at the base of the tree roses. HA! Had I bought it online, I would have read the description "a big fellow..."
We are supposed to cool rapidly in the next few days (99 degrees today!), so I think I will dig a root ball around it and see if it wilts. If not, I will move it now.
I WOULD like to see my roses in the autumn flush, without having to hunt for them!
Carla in Sac

I know I’ll be doing the same when my amistad salvia grows up but I couldn’t resist the color or the hummers !! I feel like around here I just don’t see the nice little salvias ! I look ! Not much luck beyond Victoria blue and a couple others but I love the vibrant colors they have in the large ones .

I have planted a dozen different types of salvias and some surprise me with how gigantic they get and some come back some dont

It is really hard to know when I just buy one at the growers market what it is going to end up doing but I would like to see my roses so I would cut that baby way back or move it

I want to put one behind my Desdemona rose but I'm a little bit nervous as to which 1 to use I use a lot of greggy and they don't get too tall but they can get really wide.

By the Carla, I think you may have won the prize for the tallest salvia I have ever seen.

Definitely one of the most irresistible Rose forum discussion titles in recent times.

Yes, Limelight does get huge. I wouldn't move it until it gets cooler and you can cut it back .

Kristine: there is a really good Salvia bible by Betsy Clebsch. It's not huge and always went with me to markets and plant places.

My mom in Stockton has this gargantuan Hot Lips sage...left to its own devices, it’d probably be 8x8 feet. It’s a magnificent plant, covered with bloom 365 days a year. It is also an ecosystem onto itself, at least 5 different kinds of bees, hummingbirds, butterflys , praying mantis, a constant hive of activity. And yes, all the critters buzz extra loud like they will attack if you get too close to the sacred bush.

Thank you, CA Kate for the book recommendation!

Amanda, lol—Amish friendship plant, indeed!

I love salvias, exactly for the reasons Ben pointed out—I think they bring so much vitality to the garden. Off to look up more salvias!! :-)

Before you attempt the move, you might establish some cuttings from the plant. It roots very easily. You can plant those in a more appropriate place before moving the beast, and if the original dies, no great loss. You *will* want to cut it back pretty hard to maintain healthy root/shoot balance, or the stress of digging up might kill it. It will regardless probably cause the blooms to fail, shutting down the hummingbird feed, hence my thoughts on establishing back-up blooms elsewhere.