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outlet for island

7 years ago

Our GC’s electrician put the wiring for the outlet like this in the cabinet. Is this normally what it looks like and then you trim the shelf to fit or should I mention something. We have our final plumbing and electric inspection this week.

Comments (13)

  • 7 years ago

    I would have run the conduit all the way into the box. And generally, the exterior sheathing of the wire is removed when running through the conduit. At least in my area

  • 7 years ago

    I'm not an electrician, but I have done a lot of wiring in my various homes, and I'll give you my take.

    1. The cable needs physical protection similar to what's provided by the conduit, so that's a start.

    2. In certain situations, you need to run individual wires, not sheathed cable, through conduit, but in this application that's not necessary, so that's ok.

    3. The conduit should be secured, and that one looks like it's just sitting in place, so not ok.

    4. The problem is that the conduit should run all the way to the box and be properly terminated...meaning you don't just have the conduit end and then 6" of unprotected cable run to the box. The blue box that is installed looks like the wrong kind to accept termination fittings. Here is an idea of how conduit should end up at an electrical box (note the fittings, the clamps, and that there is no exposed cable):



    It looks like what you have is a bit of a sloppy afterthought on the part of the electrician. I don't know if it will pass inspection if the inspector takes a look at it, and I wouldn't want that in my kitchen. It can be it can be redone properly fairly easily, which is what I recommend.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    I like seeing conduit plumb and square.

    What are the marks on the outside of the cabinet? I fear they are either snake bites or related to the conduit installation.

  • 7 years ago

    @mark bishak the mark is a green marking I think that’s just my flash. I would have to research what a conduit plumb and square is? Something can be done now?

  • PRO
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Typically, we include wide end panels or a knee wall behind the cabinetry to run plumbing and/or electric. Absent these things, the electrical has to make its way to the outlet through the cabinet. I do agree that the conduit should be secured and run all the way to the box.

    What is the countertop overhang? It is against code to place an outlet under an overhang that is over 6" deep.

  • 7 years ago

    "Receptacles mounted below countertops extending more than six inches beyond the support base are permitted but cannot be included as required receptacles," as per National Electrical Code.#

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    That is not workmanlike. Plus the designer should have chosen color matching outlets and switch plates. I find the attention to detail is lacking. Enough so that I would poke around further to see what else may have been affected by the sloppy work.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    An outlet in an island is a "required receptacle", unless there is a second outlet in the island that is not under a countertop that extends more than six inches.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Plumb and square = not crooked

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    An outlet in an island is a "required receptacle"

    I take it because a kitchen island is considered a countertop. Same now applies in our jurisdiction since 2012. The OP should be sure the electrical inspector takes note.

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    the designer should have chosen color matching outlets and switch plates.



  • 7 years ago

    It sounds like If you make sure the inspector sees it and fails it, you won’t have to be the bad guy....

  • 7 years ago

    Thanks everyone.