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Builder Made Fireplaces Too Dark

6 years ago

We are building a new home and have two fireplaces. The sample of the stone I chose seemed to have a lot of light gray, which is what I wanted, as my floors and island are dark and I want everything else to be light.. The stone company’s website showed examples of finished fireplaces using that stone, and they all look light gray with a little tan and a few scattered darker pieces. I walked into my home the other day, and I saw very dark fireplaces with a lot of black and charcoal and almost no light gray. The few light gray pieces are on the ends and they form stripes. I am extremely unhappy with them and don’t know if they’ll be willing to redo them. What would you do to try and convince them to fix them, and if they don‘t, what would you recommend we do ourselves to lighten them and create more color variation after we move in? Or are we likely looking at tearing them down?







Here are the examples I went off of:





Comments (30)

  • 6 years ago

    The wall color in sample help blend out the darker stone. Are your walls painted if they are than you have a big contrast that makes stone seem darker than sample (at least on my screen yours stone n sample look similar) If you get wall paint up n still hate it or builder want replace for ya Then romobio nube gray lime wash will give u the light gray you want you need to do a light application to tone down the darker stone. Stuff super easy to use.

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  • 6 years ago
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    I would not be happy either. It looks much, much darker overall and I see very little of that almost black stone in either of your inspiration pics. Do you know the name of the supplier of the stone? Can you get on their website and see if they have a colorway that is darker than the one you chose? It may be the builder used the wrong stone and you could insist it be redone. Not sure what you can do if you can't show it's the wrong stuff. Either way, the installation is aesthetically poor with the way they installed those three matching stones on the lower right instead of randomly varying them with the darker stones.

    Is the hearth mortared? The slabs look too far apart there, too.

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  • 6 years ago

    Thank you. The walls are not painted, however, they will be light, once painted. They must be, because I have dark floors going in. So yeah, it will be a huge contrast.


    I think it is the same colorway, but it almost looks like they just opened the box and started pulled stones out and putting them up however they were laid in there rather than looking at the range of colors, spreading them out a bit, and designing a variegated, loose yet natural looking pattern, where you get a little of everything in almost every bite, using the black stuff very sparingly as an accent, which is what I assumed anyone would do.


    i guess it could have been a particularly dark batch, for some reason, but the sample board they have in the design center gave no indication of the dominance of the dark colors. The ratio was about 50 light, 30 midrange, 20 darker.


    The other issue is that our superintendent never gives us updates as to what’s coming up next. We were told by our sales rep that he would be providing updates nonstop. And it is true, he is not checking the materials that come in against what I ordered, because there have been wrong cabinets come in, and they installed the wrong banister. They are lucky I can live with the banister. Had I known they were doing fireplaces next, I would have ridden out there and guided the process. He is obviously not there doing that.

  • 6 years ago

    Force a weekly meeting with the site super and ask what's on the plan and is everything correct. When given a choice, the site guys WON'T engage with the homeowner, as you just slow things down with all your desires to make things right!!! ;-)


    What does your spec sheet say about the stone and is that the stone? If you have that specified and they installed something different, you can be stronger in your demands.

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  • 6 years ago

    You will have to go get the sample and put it up against what was actually installed you cannot go off of previously installed application images especially if this is a natural product

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  • PRO
    6 years ago

    Stone is porous. It absorbs moisture and appears darker right after setting than it does after a week or so of drying out. There’s also natural variation. Plus the fireplace is in shadow, with no lighting. All of that is combining to be crazy making. It will be fine when it’s all dried out, with the correct lighting shining on it.

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  • 6 years ago

    Just an FYI - if you are having dark floors, I think this stone - as is - will be striking. You might want to hold your decision until the floors are in (or get a decent photoshopped to help you.


    You look like you have an abundance of light (GREAT!) in both of these rooms, meaning you can pull this off.

    ItIsWell thanked just_janni
  • PRO
    6 years ago

    The first question I always ask a rep when I'm considering natural stone from a sample is "how does this stone look today". And the rep will let me know how the new shipments compare to the sample boards. Lighter, darker, busier, etc. This looks to be the same stone as the inspiration photos, but it could be that the stone that was recently quarried is darker than the ones quarried previously. Checking in on site during install would have given you an opportunity to make sure the stone was correct or to request the installer favor lighter pieces over darker ones. When it comes to natural stone, I generally order 30% overage so that the installer can remove the pieces we do not want.

    Off topic - are those direct vent fireplaces? If so, please check the manual for recommended heights of non-combustible material. Your mantels look low for direct-vent fireplace applications.

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  • 6 years ago
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    I can see the darker pieces compared to your sample picture, but as others have said, the sample has the darker walls and floor to balance it out. You also have to remember that online photos are usually touched up to show products in the best light.

    I think it's unfortunate that you have to remember that the contractors are likely doing everything quickly and aren't going to take the time to sort through the tiles and pick the best ones. They want to get the job done. When we added a bathroom to our basement last year, I had to specifically tell my contractor to go through the tile to get a good variation in color and he looked at me like I had 3 heads. In the end, he didn't pick as much variation as *I* would have had I laid the tile myself, but I tend to be a bit of a control freak like that. I doubt the builder is going to do it over as it does look like the sample, just a bit darker.


    Edit - realized I didn't answer your questions. If it was me, I'd not ask the builder to redo it as the tile itself looks like it was installed well (you see plenty of examples of bad tiles installations on this site). I don't know the requirements needed for direct vent fireplaces, but if the clearances are incorrect, then I can see a redo on the builder's dime. However, I think with this kind of stone you're going to get a lot of variation and unless you're sitting there picking out the individual stones, then the redoo may be worse than what you have now. I would pick paint and flooring to go with it. And it will look a lot difference once it's fully cured and everything else is in your space.

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  • 6 years ago

    Your mantels look low for direct-vent fireplace applications.

    Good catch! 12"-13" is a typical restriction. If so, the combustible wood corbels would be too low. But each fireplace manufacturer has different requirements.

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  • 6 years ago

    The bottom inspiration photo actually reveals some potential problems. Dark stone outlines the opening on the left, but not on the right. Lighter stone on the right give the same stripe as in your fireplace. And anyway decor obscures much of the stone in the bottom picture.

    It appears there will be a tv over your mantel, which will unfortunately (IMO) cover up some of the few color stones. But it will also be dark anyway, so will the stone be an issue?

    I agree that the finished hearth isn’t as nice as the inspiration photo.

    ItIsWell thanked bpath
  • 6 years ago
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    [...] but the sample board they have in the design center [....]

    The other issue is that our superintendent never gives us updates as to
    what’s coming up next. We were told by our sales rep that he would be
    providing updates nonstop. [....] Had I known they were doing
    fireplaces next, I would have ridden out there and guided the process.
    He is obviously not there doing that.

    What you say here makes me think that y'all are building a tract/production house, which means you might not have the options that other posters are suggesting. :-(

    I have built only 2 tract homes, and I've never been given updates by the superintendent (I'm lucky to meet him two or three times), and while I have been *specifically* told by the sales reps that I am welcome on-site to check on the houses (not all builders allow this), I have never shown up while workers were there.

    ItIsWell thanked One Devoted Dame
  • 6 years ago

    I agree with One Dame on the “sales rep” issue. I thought the same thing - that this is a mass production home. If it is, good luck with “forcing a head to head” meeting. Do you actually own the home now, or will you close when it is complete?

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  • 6 years ago

    I think it is pretty as is. It looks like it may still be wet and darker from the install. But even if it stays as is, it is lovely.

  • 6 years ago

    True, it is a big builder, and we are not in it, yet. We are set to close mid-January.

  • 6 years ago

    I like what you have. I think it's the nature of the beast when dealing with natural materials and/or materials with a lot of variation. Not everyone has the most discerning eyes either.

    So on something like this, I think you almost have to go into knowing that some degree of variation is expected. Yours falls within expected tolerances, for me.

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  • 6 years ago

    If you don’t close on the house till next month, your leverage to make changes now is probably pretty low. Good luck.

    ItIsWell thanked littlebug zone 5 Missouri
  • 6 years ago

    Ugh, sorry for your disappointment. In our last house, I, too, wanted a lighter gray fireplace but when installed, it looked darker than I had envisioned. I did learn to live with and appreciate it over time, though.


    May I ask how wide your fireplaces are and what size the inserts are?

    ItIsWell thanked shead
  • 6 years ago

    Thank you. I’m sorry, I do not know the measurements. We’re set to move in about a month. The good news is the builder seems sympathetic is going to see what they can do.

  • 6 years ago

    I like your mix of stones color wise much more than what you were hoping for in the samples because i feel like yours is more versatile and frankly because I don’t love gray. I like the mixture of warm colors with gray. I would probably try to live with what you have and frankly I think your fireplaces look pretty good except for one area...those four stones circled in red really bother me. I would probably insist that those four be popped off and redone with a better mix. I know it can be done because we have several exterior stone walls that I had a few stones taken off and redone.


    I have to say I’m not crazy about the color of your mantle. Is that the color you chose? Or is it off too?



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  • 6 years ago

    That is the color they do for every mantle. I’m sure I could paint it. Any paint colors you like for this?

  • 6 years ago

    Update: They fixed those stripes in the lower right corner and it all appears quite a bit lighter, overall. Maybe it *was* wet/needed to dry/cure. Am I right that this looks better today?


  • 6 years ago

    Agree with ilovered and would insist they redo the very poor application of the corner stones circled in red. That would bother me much more than the dark color.

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  • 6 years ago

    I think it looks great now. I don't love the mantle and after you're in, I would stain it a darker color. I wouldn't paint it.

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  • 6 years ago

    I agree, I think it looks better now. Thank you very much for the stain idea. I will be doing that.

  • 6 years ago

    Two thumbs up Heather. Stain later when you have time..no hurry.

  • 6 years ago

    MUCH better!

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  • 6 years ago

    So much better! Congrats on your new home!

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  • 6 years ago

    Thank you all. You’ve been very helpful and kind!