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success with Potted roses?

6 years ago

I have a pot by the corner of the garage with a hollyhock and snapdragon. I live in Arizona, and the javelina have munched on the hollyhock several times, leaving the snapdragon alone, so next year I'm thinking of replacing the hollyhock. The hollyhock never got tall. Recently I got the idea of roses, maybe a tree rose or a climber. I like the idea of draping flowers, so maybe a standard rose with a red carpet rose (red ribbons?)I think the pot I have would have to be replaced. It might be too small. I'm also thinking of a Don Juan climber, Does Don Juan do well in a pot?

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  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Javelina taste pretty good roasted on a spit. Kinda more like beef than pork. Just sayin lol.

    Where are you in AZ? If you are in the desert, a pot better be really large and would have to be watered daily. Make sure it has good drainage holes.

    Don Juan is fabulous in warm climates. It gets huge and will need a strong support. He can be in big pot but you need to push it up against an arbor, trellis, tree etc so he can drape on it. Also, he doesnt like to freeze for long periods of time. Frosts are okay though. I think he is zone 8 and higher.

    Patti Sano thanked sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
  • 6 years ago

    I live in Central Arizona. Cottonwood It's about 17 miles south of Sedona, Sedona is about 7000FT but we are only 3300FT in elevation. It get's really hot in the summer, but can get cold in the winter. Maybe I should plant Don Juan against my back yard fence.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Oh I know right where Cottonwood is. We used to drive right by there when there was hardly anything out there on the way to Sedona.

    Yes you have a cooler climate in the winter, than say, Phx or Lake Havasu ( the two places I lived in AZ) but it should be okay for Don Juan. If you put DJ on the fence then you could put something smaller in the pot :)

    You might have to protect the smaller rose from the javelina until it gets established, maybe put up a tomato cage inside the pot and wrap it with hardware cloth or chicken wire etc. secured w wire or zip ties. I am in FL now but have lots of greedy critters here always causing havoc on my smaller plants. That's how I protect the little plants.

    AZ was the easiest place to grow roses out of every where I've lived so they should do great for you.

    mustbenuts has some good suggestions on places to order from.

    There are a few people on our forum who live in AZ maybe they will see this.

    Patti Sano thanked sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
  • 6 years ago

    Patti - I think being planted in the ground would be better for a relatively large climber like Don Juan - in general, smaller roses are better for pots. Also, as sultry_jasmine said you’ll need to water the pot frequently during hot weather, and make sure that the pot drains well. That said, you can definitely grow roses in pots!

    Patti Sano thanked cyndita (west coast zone 9)
  • 6 years ago

    Mustnuts, We sometimes get a little snow on the ground. It usually melts very quickly. A few years ago, the mesquite trees behind my house had snow on them, and it looked so pretty in the am, but it was gone by the afternoon. Last year we had some on the ground for a few days, but it finally went away. I have my pots on drip as well. I'll check out hottroses. Thank you/

  • 6 years ago

    If you want to grow the Red Ribbons standard in a pot, make sure the pot is the largest you can obtain and will fit. The larger the soil ball, the better the insulation. Hopefully, you will be able to find fiberglass, wood, foam/plastic or concrete types instead of clay or ceramic as the latter two transmit heat and cold to the interior perfectly, while the other types actually insulate the soil from the weather. If you can't find a type that insulates well, you can wrap thin styrofoam or bubble wrap around the interior of the pot to provide insulation.A standard in a pot is a rather nice look. Be aware, however, they are VERY top heavy and will easily blow over with any stiff winds unless the pot is large and very heavy.

    Patti Sano thanked roseseek
  • 6 years ago

    I had a Red Ribbons there the first year I was here, but it died. Maybe the pot was too small. It is ceramic.

  • 6 years ago

    Depending upon the heat, sun exposure, placement on and/or near other hard scape, it may have cooked. Ceramic pots ARE "Corning Ware". Clay or terra cotta is also a cooking utensil. If you live in cold climates, you want those materials so they trap, hold and radiate heat to the roots. If you live where the sun is intense and the heat high, you can easily cook the roots and destroy the plant using those kinds of pots. When I worked at the beach, my customers who lived where the sun was bright but air was cold, needed clay and ceramic pots to keep their tomatoes' and oranges' roots warm so the fruit would be sweet. They would plant plumeria in clay and ceramic pots and put them on concrete patios and against block walls so those surfaces would absorb the heat, warm the surrounding air space and heat the roots so the plumeria would flower. Otherwise, it was so cold they wouldn't perform. If you are in doubt of the conditions, take your shoes off and stand where you want to put the pot for a while in the full sun. If it's too hot for you, it's too hot for the plant. If you question how hot the pot can get, put the empty pot where you want it to be and allow it to sit there a couple of hours when it's hot, then slip your hand inside the pot and hold it against the inner surface. If it's too hot for your hand, it's too hot for the plant roots. Remember that just a couple of inches under the soil surface, the temps are usually in the high fifties to mid sixties, so if the pot is hot to your hand, can you imagine what it's like to the plant roots?

    Patti Sano thanked roseseek
  • 6 years ago

    Roseseek knows what he is talking about. I use resin pots for my potted roses. They are very lightweight but are like thick styrofoam on the inside and really help to protect the roots. I also have all of my potted plants on rollers Bosmere Plant Caddie, so I can move them around without any issues. It also allows them to drain as well. I am always moving plants around to clean up leaves behind them, clean windows, etc.

    BTW, you can also purchase a rose that is bred by Roseseek (Kim Rupert) and he breeds fabulous roses. Kim, if you are still reading this thread, I just pruned one of your seed babies. What a joy! That rose is totally thornless! In addition, it is a very pretty rose! I think I may try to breed it with some of my other roses this year. Here is one of Kim's charming roses. Little Butterfly.


    Patti Sano thanked mustbnuts zone 9 sunset 9
  • 6 years ago

    Thank you! I'm glad you enjoy it!

    Patti Sano thanked roseseek
  • 6 years ago

    Are "Own Root" roses better to buy than Grafted?

  • 6 years ago

    Re own root vs. grafted, it’s a good question and depends on a lot of factors. The overall high level summary is that it depends on the rose & your conditions - if the rose is commercially sold as own root it will probably do well, it might just need an extra year or so to “catch up” with a grafted rose. Advantages of own root roses are that there is no chance of the graft failing, and that you know that any side shoots that come up are the rose you want, not the graft (this can be particularly helpful in areas with a lot of freeze damage).


    I have a lot of my roses in pots, and prefer own root (for roses that can perform on their own root) for the simple reason that you don’t lose a lot of vertical space in the pot to the graft root - commercially grafted roses can have a significant length of stem between the graft & the root ball. (I’m terrible with estimating measurements, but maybe 6-10 inches? It can vary.)

    Patti Sano thanked cyndita (west coast zone 9)
  • 6 years ago

    I have some in pots and 5 gallon buckets. They eventually all burst through the container and into the ground.I didn't mind though.

    Patti Sano thanked kaleidoscope eyes
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