That is gorgeous, Garden Nut. Thanks for sharing with us!

I love this rose! I got it knew last year, but it's bloomed alot, and looking good!

I hope to have one too. It is darling!

When the bush is in full bloom, please post a picture of the entire thing - would love to see it. How big are the blooms? What do you notice to be the main difference between it and other red chinas?

Jackie

This is a rose that I have heard Jeri recommend. Most chinas have no scent but this one is an exception.

The colour is exceptional. Can we say Charming? : )

Jacklie I would say the main difference is the stronger fragrance. I’m growing ferndale red next to it and they both have a similar growth habit.

Someone mentioned the image of "Elisabeth's China" from the cemetery . . .

If you go there, you can see that the rose has been cut to the ground at least twice, and has come back. (I might note, here, that the roses in that cemetery are now greatly threatened -- by the CITY.)

She's a wonderful plant, and she does seem to drape, but she can also grow tall. I think she has made 7-ft. or so in the cemetery ... and I've seen other red Chinas do that, given enough age and benign neglect.

I have three of this rose, now. Got the second one after a truck ran over the first one, and snapped it off at ground level. It has since grown back, and IS drapey, but is up to 5-ft. The second one is also up to 5-ft. so I would say that she has definite potential to become a very large, colorful plant.

Exquisite!

Oh, dear - I may have to get one, if they sell them at the Sacramento Cemetery in May.

Jeri - I was alarmed at your comment re the Cemetery being endangered "now" - I know the history of that from 2-3 years ago. Has it raised its ugly head again? Can you give us a quick update as to the CURRENT situation, and what we can do about it?

Jackie

Jackie -- It never ended.

To add to the rest of their vandalism, the City decreed a hard-=pruning of all of the roses .... God alone knows what will bloom, come spring.

It appears that their intent is to destroy it.

WoW! Disappointing! One would have thought that the success of the film 'Lady Bird' and the positive press it brought about the roses would have been enough to convince the dunces of its worth "as is". I wonder what their issue is truly. They probably prefer the mow and blow aesthetic.

Jeri, that is horrifying that they won't let rosarians be in charge of the roses. I would probably have a stroke if I were closer and had to see this. Anita, too, has my sympathy.

Very sad that politicians have no appreciation of their own cities' history and how roses tie in with it. We are seeing so much disregard for older roses in this country with Botanical Gardens favoring HTs and tearing out the Antiques, mass natural disasters in all countries, antique nurseries closing, etc.

I fear the Antiques are especially at risk of extinction because its not just one thing working against them, its many.

The only people who may be able to save them are the private collectors. Hopefully whatever antique roses are left, can all get to the nurseries so collectors everywhere can buy and protect them before its too late. They need to be spread far and wide as possible, and soon.

Just so, Sultry.