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The Early Spring Garden

It's frankly a mess, ravaged and denuded by critters, but I'm trying to stay positive in light of the wonderful late-season rains we're having which should help to put some foliage on the roses, at least higher up where hungry mouths can't reach.


Souvenir de la Malmaison is my trouper, always ready to bloom even though the bush looks less healthy every year.




This used to be a gorgeous sea lavender. Can you spot the ground squirrel still trying to get a nibble?



Comments (43)

  • 6 years ago


    Mme. Leon Pain


  • 6 years ago


    Marie Pavie and friend

    I've exhausted myself trying over and over to post pictures, but I'm giving up. Don't know if even this one will post. It shouldn't be this hard posting from a laptop.


  • 6 years ago

    Ingrid, it's heartbreaking to see the devastation, but I'm amazed how good Marie Pavie looks. Is she as fragrant as people say? And Mme Leon Pain is a lovely thing. And yes, I can see the pesky squirrel. Hopefully the surrounding landscape will provide enough food for them before too long.

    ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9 thanked titian1 10b Sydney
  • 6 years ago

    Marie Pavie has a barrier around her which keeps her somewhat protected. It is a fragrant rose but not as much as one with larger blooms such as Wild Edric. I know you've had major garden travails of your own, Trish. It's not easy, but this world is changing rapidly now, and perhaps it's best to just accept what is.

  • 6 years ago


    Mrs. B.R. Cant


  • 6 years ago


    SdlM is very pale in the cool weather


  • 6 years ago

    I'm thrilled to see photos Ingrid. Lovely.


    ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9 thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 6 years ago


    Lovely, wonderful rain, picture taken through the glass door.


  • 6 years ago

    Wonderful!

    ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9 thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 6 years ago

    How is your rose garden coming along this spring, Sheila? I cannot wait for your spring flush, which is always one of the delights of the rose year.


  • 6 years ago

    Lovely pictures Ingrid! I love your Souvenir de la Malmaison. That rose won't grow here. maybe someday I'll live somewhere that is well suited to growing it.

    ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9 thanked K S 7a Yakima
  • 6 years ago

    P.S. congratulations on the rain! What a joy to see California getting so much rain this year!

    ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9 thanked K S 7a Yakima
  • 6 years ago

    Ingrid, all is coming along. No blooms yet.


    ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9 thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 6 years ago


    G Nabonnand is exuberant.

    Hermosa on left, Rosette Delizy back center and Papa Gontier back right.

    ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9 thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 6 years ago

    Sheila, I'd say pretty well everything in your garden is exuberant! It's going to be quite a show.


    K S, without a doubt you have roses that would hate my place, and they're probably a lot more fragrant than mine too. Yes, this late rain has been an unlooked-for blessing, and will postpone the fire season by some months. I'm so grateful for this.


  • 6 years ago

    Ingrid and Sheila, both of your gardens look wonderful to me! Ingrid, I love the picture of the rain. Sheila, wow! Amazing G Nabonnand. Can't wait for the bloom pictures, but I have to admit, I am especially enjoying the green leaf and bud stage this year.

    ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9 thanked mustbnuts zone 9 sunset 9
  • 6 years ago

    Rain and roses, beautiful spring scenes and serene garden views. The rain is refreshing and lifts one's spirits, so glad that spring has arrived...


    ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9 thanked Krista_5NY
  • 6 years ago

    Ingrid your Mrs BR Cant and SdlM are wonderful! Your SdlM is the reason I planted one in the fall. K S’s comment about not being ablento grow one here has me a bit nervous since we are close in location but I still have to hope.

    I’ve just loved your pictures of it. It’s okay if isn‘t as amazing as yours. I’ll be happy with some pretty foliage and a few blooms!

    ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9 thanked oursteelers 8B PNW
  • 6 years ago

    Oursteelers you might have better luck than me -- microclimates can vary so much. My Souvenir de Saint Anne's does really well, so I think it might be possible to grow SdlM around here with just the right spot...

    ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9 thanked K S 7a Yakima
  • 6 years ago

    I'm sending positive vibes to both of your SdlM to make them prosper and bloom a lot. It's a good cut rose also, and it's opened up quite a bit now on day four, as it was day two when I took the previous picture. Fingers crossed that I can post its picture here.



  • 6 years ago

    I picked some more roses in between rain squalls, Mrs. B.R. Cant, Rhodologue Jules Gravereaux, Jesse Hildreth and SdlM.





  • 6 years ago

    Just heavenly, Ingrid. Your SdlM looks so much better than mine here. Mine picks up steam and looks great by Fall, but the plant really loves your area more.

    ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9 thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 6 years ago

    They look great Ingrid! Sheila, your garden is growing like crazy! I can’t wait to see it in bloom. We’ve had lots of rain, and now they say we will get plenty more Friday night. What a welcome surprise. Lisa

    ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9 thanked Lisa Adams
  • 6 years ago

    I'm over the moon about the rain, Lisa, and I imagine you welcome not having to water your garden for some time to come. You're going to have a fantastic spring bloom!

  • 6 years ago

    Ingrid, the roses you have are so luscious! I love the full blooms. All my plants are in their second year now and many have buds. Here is a Reve d’Or.

    ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9 thanked Stephanie, 9b inland SoCal
  • 6 years ago

    Stephanie, that beautiful bloom brought me close to tears. I miss my Reve d'Or so much. Please keep posting yours as time goes on. It will only be more beautiful with each passing year.

  • 6 years ago

    I’m both thrilled and amazed at how much rain has fallen this past week. 5 inches fell, and 2 of them fell on Friday. That’s just unheard of here, especially in April. I think a little more might still be coming. The roses will certainly appreciate having this to draw from in the coming months.

    Stephanie, that is indeed a lovely Reve d’Or bloom. I’m so thankful that we get to enjoy each others roses here. I can’t grow them all, but at least I can enjoy them when someone else posts them here.

    How is your Duchess de Brabant, Ingrid? Mine is blooming, but continues to suffer from powdery mildew.

    Some soggy blooms this morning.

    Oh! Guess what? I see tiny buds forming on Boule de Neige! They weren’t there before our week of rain, and I just noticed them on my way back from Duchess de Brabant. I can’t wait to see those beautiful blooms for the second time! Lisa

    ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9 thanked Lisa Adams
  • 6 years ago

    Lisa, I can't wait to see your Boule de Neige in bloom. Even the buds are gorgeous! Not a rose seen often and all the more precious for that.

    My Duchesse de Brabant is one of the many roses I didn't prune and it's leaning drunkenly in every direction, with also a few soggy blooms on it. No mildew, and I wish yours would stop misbehaving. I confess that I'm more partial to its sport, Mme. Joseph Schwartz, but that was eaten to the ground.

    It's not to my credit, but I could not go on the rose forums when I'd lost all hope in my garden; it was just too painful. It's so wonderful to see all these hopeful signs now, and I'm so happy to be back here. I'm eagerly looking forward to everyone's spring blooms!

  • 6 years ago

    Some roses I picked yesterday and posted on the spring thread over at 'Roses'. They include my first half-open bloom of Evelyn, Mrs. B.R. Cant, Wild Edric, Jesse Hildreth and SdlM. My short Jesse Hildreth was half-eaten but has put on new growth and now some flowers. I was so happy to see that.





  • 6 years ago

    Ingrid, enjoy the enjoyable! Your rain looks wonderful. We're having a dry spring after a dry winter, and I can appreciate the moisture Nature is bestowing on you at its true worth.

    ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9 thanked Melissa Northern Italy zone 8
  • 6 years ago

    I'm certain you can, Melissa, and I fervently hope you'll still have some rain this season. Italy has been through a horrendous time and I would hate to have drought added to that experience.

  • 6 years ago
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    Ingrid that is wonderful news that JH is putting out new growth n flowering. It is great news that it rained there and more is expected like Lisa said above.

    Shiela , I cant wait to see your garden bloom and it looks so pretty. I bet it must be putting out buds soon.

    Ingrid, your garden looks beautiful regardless the situation of wildlife. I always admire your garden and always will. Look at that beauty through the glass door. Now, that i can sit and enjoy looking out. It is BEAUTIFUL !! I enjoy your bouquet :))

    Lisa, i totally enjoy enjoy your garden. All the rain you told me made me sooooo happy. I hope you get rain barrels to collect water. I know it is so hot there and drought conditions. Beautiful pics !!

    Melissa, i hope you will get rain this year and soon. Cross fingers !

    Stephanie, i love your Rev d'Or. I always wanted that but i guess i am leaning more on Juane Desprez which looks alike but scented which is more me...lol. Your rose made me smile too. I need that sunshine in my life with what is going on in this world :))

    ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9 thanked Plumeria Girl (Florida ,9b)
  • 6 years ago

    Comtessa, nicely put. Totally agree with you !

    ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9 thanked Plumeria Girl (Florida ,9b)
  • 6 years ago

    Ingrid, I need to thank you. After seeing pictures of your lovely SdlM several years ago, I was inspired. First I invited Mystic Beauty, a clone of a clone of SdlM, to grow in my camellia garden. Poor little thing survived an attack from hungry deer the first season but continues to do better every year. This is the third year, I think, so maybe the year for it to leap. Our season is just starting so I'll find out soon. I thought I'd give Souvenir de St. Anne's a chance next and then cl. SdlM. It turns out the SdlM family are good roses for me but I'd never have been inspired to try it if you hadn't shared yours on this forum.


    Recently I ordered Aunt Margy's Rose after seeing how lovely yours is. I don't think our gardens could be more different, but polyanthas mostly do quite well for me. I'll be showing it pictures of your rose so it will have something to aspire to.


    Thank you.

    ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9 thanked Kes Z 7a E Tn
  • 6 years ago

    Thank you so much, dear Comtesse. I hope all is well with you, or perhaps I should say I wish you the very best that it can be. I think of you often now that my condition more closely approximates yours. I so admire your courage and tenacity.

    Plumeria Girl, that is so sweet of you to say. You are always such a bright and positive spirit here, and so good for morale.

    Kes, I'm thrilled that you're delving into the SdlM clan and I wish you the best of luck. They're not all the same in how they perform, but Souvenir de St. Anne's seems to be a particularly easy one for most people to grow.

    If polyanthas do well for you, then Aunt Margy's Rose should be a star for you. I love the fact that for me at least there is never a problem with diseases or bugs. I'm now seeing mildew here and there, but AMR never has even the tiniest bit. If its blooms were larger I think everyone would want to grow this rose. For me the smaller blooms are a nice contrast, however, to all the larger ones in my garden. Marie Pavie and International Herald Tribune are both also stellar roses that have small blooms.

  • 6 years ago

    Stephanie, you are such a sweetie! What a great idea to have two Reve d'Or and Cl. Pinkie, one at each end. It's going to be awesome when they meet in the middle and you have a wall of blooms. I have a thing about yellow and pink roses together, I love that, and the difference in size of blooms and petal count will be a great contrast. Of course I have to ask now; what is the pretty lighter pink rose in the front on the last photo? We cannot have an unidentified rose!

  • 6 years ago

    Yes I love the pink and gold roses together. All 4 pictures show just Cl. Pinkie and Reve d’Or. they are actually plated just a few feet apart so I am not if that is good, but I’ll let them grow together and see how it goes. I plan to train Reve d’Or along the top and towards the back and CP below and towards the front.

    ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9 thanked Stephanie, 9b inland SoCal
  • 6 years ago

    In the last photo I'm seeing a rose that seems to be a lighter pink with quite a few petals. I had Cl. Pinkie years ago and it was a single rose or almost single, as you can see below. Looking at it again it might be semi-double. Roses can be quite different depending on their location.




  • 6 years ago

    Yours was lovely. I went out and got a close up of my Cl. Pinkie blooms.

    ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9 thanked Stephanie, 9b inland SoCal
  • 6 years ago

    I think on mine the younger roses are ever so slightly darker pink.

    ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9 thanked Stephanie, 9b inland SoCal
  • 6 years ago

    Mine was in quite a bit of shade and that had to be the difference, It also had terrible soil and no rose ever did well there.