It looks like from your photo that the outer flange is the only piece that can come straight up. If not, you could try cutting it out with a grinder.

Please don't pry anything up, unless you want to damage things, compromise the waterproofing, and have a large plumbing and tile bill to repair everything.

It looks like the grate is held in place by two screws, one of which is missing. Your photo is unclear so I can't tell if the remaining screw head is damaged or simply needs a star head bit to remove it. If it is so damaged that it can't be removed, it may need to be drilled out.

Yes, I think I can see now that inner lip might be removable so the circular part could come up.

Hi thank you for the suggestions. Maybe the picture doesn’t show it but that lflange is on top of the great. All the way around. If I remove that other screw I still will not be able to take the grade off.unless I pry pen the flange which I don’t want to do. Also the flange is connected to the outer metal circle all the way out to the Square. and that square does not come out and it’s grouted r in .that is the problem.Have never seen a great light this. t is crazy

david-

I see what you mean. When I looked at the photos originally, I misinterpreted what you were dealing with. I’ve never seen an installation like that. I’m thinking that it may have originally been installed incorrectly: the grate was screwed to the drain fitting first and then the flange was installed — improperly — on top of it, instead of the reverse of that.

I don’t know any easy way to get the grate off. The only thing I can think of is to use a Dremel tool to cut as much of the grate out as you can without damaging the flange, You could then get a new grate and screw it on top... properly. If you can do that, you’ll avoid a cascade of other problems that would result from trying to remove the flange itself to get the grate removed.

Are you trying to get the grate off to clean out the drain?

ok thanks, i guess I wil just have to do my best, wanted to make sure i wasn't missing something. Kudzu I think you may be right, it was installed incorrectly. Yes i need to snake the drain. I am aware that i could call a plumber and see how he gets it off. but now wondering if a plumber will even know what to do , and it will cost me $$. I already tries baking soda,hot water, vinegar, drano, etc. Thanks for all your comments

OK so I got it off. got the second screw out. then gently,gradually pried around the circle. Got two screwdrivers in there and then just moved one around till i could pop the grate out. damage not bad at all,just upturned flange. I think yeah if you look a t the photo you can see the two carveouts in the flange, I think that is where you are supposed to i put the grate back on top of flange and screw on top of it, as Kudzu said i think it was put on incorrectly. However the screw holes were so corroded they ended up just breaking off from the edge. So now the flange is a plus! i just put the grate back in and pounded the flange down smoothly(sort of) around it it to seal it back in. could prob put caulk on it too if there are any rough edges. Also btw the shop-vac worked great just sucking stuff out of there. thanks for all your comments!

david-

Glad you got it worked out yourself. Nothing against plumbers, but I don't think they could have finessed it any better than you did...and maybe a lot worse.

It was not installed improperly, as I had pointed out. lol