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Blue Hawaii sporting?

Hosta peeps, do you think this Blue Hawaii is sporting. I got it late last summer and have never seen it in springtime. Thanks ahead of time for your comments, impressions.




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  • 6 years ago

    what are you referring to???


    the white center looks like its in a different pot ...


    maybe im just dull this morning ...

  • 6 years ago

    Is it the green streaks you are referring to?

    bk

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  • 6 years ago

    Maybe it will turn into something like Devils Advocate. I like those subtle variegations.


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    undertheoaksgardener7b thanked mac48025 ( SE michigan)
  • 6 years ago

    Let me try again.



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  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Yes, it it the green streaks. Sorry for the messy picture. The Blue Hawaii is next to a U. mediovareigata, but I noticed that one of the Blue Hawaii's eyes is making leaves with subtle green streaks and green margins. When the leaves first unfurled a couple of weeks, I thought it was just immature leaf coloring early in the season, or early spring damage. But for past couple of days, it seems like it is becoming variegated. How fun and pretty that would be!

    I know it will take another 1-2 years to know for sure, but it is still fun. Devil's Advocate and Dark Shadows have always looked so mysterious, but I have not gotten them because they are said to be less remarkable in my zone.

  • 6 years ago

    That is so pretty. That would be a good development, 2 plants for the price of one.

    undertheoaksgardener7b thanked frankielynnsie
  • 6 years ago

    How old is the plant? Maturity could have something to do with it maybe?? Zillis defines Blue Hawaii as “large semi-upright mound of intensely blue, very thick foliage.... leaves have thick underside bloom.” I would think the blue color is what the plant is striving for. Although, I must admit yours is quite pretty as is. Here is a mature one:

    This hosta is over 5 years old. This pic doesn’t show the blue coloring well, but shows the thick foliage and bloom.

    undertheoaksgardener7b thanked djacob Z6a SE WI
  • 6 years ago

    I just bought it last year, so the plant is probably 2 years old. I got a picture today. I think you're right, that it is just immaturity. But it is fun to hope and to speculate. One of the fun things about hostas is finding a sport. For some reason, finding a reversion seems more disappointing.

  • 6 years ago

    I had a June revision last year that gave me “Halcyon”, one of the best blues. I thought that was great!

    undertheoaksgardener7b thanked djacob Z6a SE WI
  • 6 years ago

    I have a Vulcan that keeps throwing Captain Kirk reversions. I call it my Romulan.

  • 6 years ago

    I have Vulcan as well. I will keep an eye on it for signs of Captain Kirk!

    undertheoaksgardener7b thanked djacob Z6a SE WI
  • 6 years ago

    Here is the Blue Hawaii today. Both Blue Hawaii plants are the same age, different vendor. They are in the it second year, and their first spring for me. The pot on left has 2 eye, one sporting (possibly). The pot on the right has one eye and serves as color comparison.




  • 6 years ago
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    I believe I bought a 2nd BH because the first one seemed all green when it arrived in June or July. BH has a reputation for being very blue, so I suspected last year that I got a green one. The 2nd one arrived in late September or early October, and was already going dormant. Of course, I did not label them with anything except their matching BH tags.

  • 6 years ago

    djacobz568sewi, I have two sports of June that look blue. Maybe they are Halcyon. Thanks for mentioning this. Is Halcyon the pod parent? How do I know when a hosta is "reverting" instead of "sporting"?

  • 6 years ago

    Not a pod parent as it isn't a seedling, but June is a sport of Halcyon. It is "reverting" when it looks like the plant it came from. It is "sporting" when it looks different. You may actually need a DNA test to confirm, but if it looks like a duck . . ..

    undertheoaksgardener7b thanked steve duggins(Z6a) - Central Ohio
  • 6 years ago

    Thanks.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Yes. A sport is just an eye that shows a different pattern, texture, size, or coloration from the rest of the plant. Hostas are prone to genetic changes, which can present as a sport (new plant) or a reversion. Some people mistake a reversion for a new sport, which is why there are so many look-alike hostas and the 10-ft fool. A reversion is when the sporting eye looks like the plant that originated the main plant. Stay with me if you find this interesting or informative.

    Gold Standard has made many sports. One is a beautiful wide-margined sport with gold centers, named Captain Kirk. Captain Kirk made a lovely white-centered sport, named Vulcan. Last year, my Vulcan developed an eye with gold centered leaves identical to Captain Kirk, and another couple eyes that had streaked centers. I put the reversion next to a Captain Kirk that I had purchased as a Captain Kirk in years previous; they were identical. I removed the eye that had reverted to Captain Kirk and planted it at the base of a giant Hosta. I also removed the streaked-centered eyes and kept them in a pot for observation. I also bought a new Vulcan because I really like the look of Vulcan.

    This year, the streaky eyes had completed their reversion to Captain Kirk (or what appears identical to Captain Kirk). I separated those eyes from the adventurous, sporty Vulcan and again have a pot of new Captain Kirks and a pot with an unstable Vulcan. Out of my love for Star Trek, I am playfully calling my unstable Vulcan which tends to revert to CK my "Romulan".

  • 6 years ago

    Thanks for sharing, Mac! Yes, we might be hosta enthusiasts.

    BTW, what is that green, shiny one behind Snake Eyes on the right? It looks more like a creature than a plant.

  • 6 years ago

    Yeah, we just MIGHT be! My name is Mac and I’m a hostaholic.


    Thats Guacamole. Like Snake Eyes it colors up more later in the season.

    undertheoaksgardener7b thanked mac48025 ( SE michigan)
  • 6 years ago

    I wondered if that was Guacamole! Happy gardening!

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    1 year later, it does appear to be a sport! What shall we call it, just for fun? Super Swell as an homage to Blue Hawaii's surf?


  • 5 years ago

    I have divided out the sport. It is less blue, but does have some glaucous coating. The margin is chartreuse now, narrow. The leaves are thick, stiff like Tokudama. The plant seems to be very upright/vase-shaped. The sport seems more vigorous than Blue Hawaii.

  • 5 years ago

    It is also corrugated without distortion of the leaf form. I think this is going to be pretty. The roots were nearly twice as long as the above-ground plant. It really seems like it has Sagae and Tokudama, like Blue Hawaii.

  • 5 years ago
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    How about Rogue Wave since Hawaii gets their share of those and references the rare nature of the sport. Or some major surfing competition in Hawaii (sport, get it?).

    undertheoaksgardener7b thanked steve duggins(Z6a) - Central Ohio
  • 5 years ago

    Want to read something interesting about hosta development and how the smaller blues were developed—-where they came from and how? Check out this link which Ken shared with me last summer. It’s short but very informative. It talks about Halcyon being as close to perfection as a hosta, and we know how many hostas lead back to Halcyon. Either one generation or two or even three generations back. Just thought I would share


    https://www.hostahosta.com/longiana.html


    happy reading!!

    debra

    undertheoaksgardener7b thanked djacob Z6a SE WI
  • 5 years ago

    I like Rogue Wave...cool! Thanks, Steve!

  • 5 years ago

    The sport is recovering well.

  • 5 years ago

    Just thought I would share

    https://www.hostahosta.com/longiana.html

    happy reading!!


    Debra, I'd love to read the article, but the link doesn't work for me....I even tried 2 different browsers.....

    Pieter

  • 5 years ago

    I can't read it either, message says the link can't be found.

  • 5 years ago

    I see that now....... let me see if I can find it again.

    debra

  • 5 years ago

    As I have said, I do love Bob Solberg’s work! Thanks, Debra!

  • 5 years ago

    I can certainly attest to 'Summer Squall' being a great Hosta.

  • 5 years ago

    The first two are Summer Squall. Next is Blue Hawaii. Last is....Rogue Wave!

  • 5 years ago

    You blues are really looking blue! Love that Summer Squall!! :-D

    debra

  • 5 years ago
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    Rogue Wave, Super Swell, Tahiti or something.


  • 5 years ago

    I was checking on my Pure Heart, a variegated mini hosta, today. It has sported, so that half of it has pure green leaves. What should I do?

  • 5 years ago

    Pure Heart is a sport of Mighty Mouse, which is not all green. So, you have a sport in the making! The next question is whether it is gardenworthy. If the sport represents a distinct separate eye, then divide the sport off, pot it, and watch for 1-2 seasons to see if it is hardy or remarkable. If the sporting eye does not look like it will be easy to divide from the main plant, then wait 1-2 seasons before dividing to allow the eye to mature.

  • 5 years ago

    Thanks UTOG. The sport is pure green and not unattractive. I thought it would simply be the original Mouse hosta. But I much prefer the pretty Pure Heart. I think the plant is presently too small to be cutting it up dividing it, so I'll wait.

  • 5 years ago

    If you don't want to keep the green one, just pull and twist on the eye to pop it out. Put the roots energy into growing the portion you like. You may need to hold the little plant in the ground when you pull.

    Yesterday, I was looking at a couple of stabilized margined eyes on a little streaker that looked like it might take over. You can barely see the streaker here. Just a little plant.


    So I gently inserted my Hori Hori in between and popped out the two eyes. They each only had one 2" (at most) root and a nub or two. I really like the stable form so I guess I should have waited, but I really wanted to save the streaky plant. A lot of energy from the crown going in to those two eyes without roots of their own. So I'm trying to build more roots in a glass of water on the window sill. I've never really been successful doing it before. I've grown roots, but the plants never survived afterwards.

  • 5 years ago
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    Pieter and Miles, I copied the content and put it in another post called “The Lineage of Halcyon” on the forum. I hope you find it.

    debra