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Juglone toxicity vs Phytophthora

6 years ago

I will try to keep this brief, but I also want to include as many details as possible so please be patient.

I have a dead Boule de Neige rhododendron and I’m trying to determine the culprit. It was planted in north facing foundation bed, zone 5b, July last year. There’s another on the other side of my porch - so NE - that came from the same source at the same time and is doing well. Around Sept, I noticed my NW rhody’s leaves looked a little droopy and a few were discolored. It was still pretty warm and my nearby hydrangeas had a bit of leaf spot and some spider mites, so I gave them all a little fungicide and neem oil spray. I don’t recall any change in the leaves after a few weeks but by then it was starting to get cold and the other rhododendron’s leaves were beginning to curl and droop as well. I figured it was just a consequence of the temperature dropping and left it at that until around Christmas when the weather was uncharacteristically warm. NE BDN perks right up but NW stays droopy.
My first thought was Phytophthora. I sent a photo to the man I purchased them from, Jim from rhododendrons direct, and he reported not seeing any sign of a fungal infection. I did further research and realized that particular foundation bed is approximately ~50 ft from a black walnut tree - well outside of the dripline but possibly in the root zone - hard to tell which roots belong to which tree, as there are several other trees planted around the black walnut. I was ignorant of juglone toxicity prior to this. I began thinking the BW tree was the culprit.
It was pretty warm here in south central Michigan for a few weeks after Christmas, so I dug up the rhododendron in question and put it in a shallow 24 inch container to keep it isolated in my garage until the spring when I could reassess and possibly relocate.
Fast forward and it’s definitely dead. Most of the buds and leaves are still attached, though they remain wilted and very crispy despite adequate watering and drainage.
I’m still trying to figure out what exactly killed it, as there is now a large hole in my foundation bed I need to fill but don’t want to lose another rhododendron. My extension office said they cannot text for juglone and don’t currently have the staffing to test for Phytophthora.
I’m including some photos of the affected rhododendron to see if anyone can help. Please note that my foundation bed is raised approximately 12 inches and the Pieris Japonica that was next to the BDN appears to be doing fine.

Comments (4)

  • 6 years ago

    My first thought was Phytophthora

    Go with that

  • 6 years ago

    i have been gardening in MI for 50 plus years... and i never dug anything up in December ...and wouldnt dare to ... but thats hindsight ...




    and storing stuff in the garage can be a real roll of the dice.. because on sunny winter days the garage can be z7 .. and then 2 days later .. back to z5 ... plants can go in and out of dormancy .. and that can be a big problem...


    leaf rool in MI in winter is NORMAL ...


    and azalea and Rhodies look like carp after winter.. to the point i started only growing deicidous A's... and gave up on R's .. when you get the right one.. in the right spot.. they can live a long time... but i wasted a lot of money finding the right ones ... and basically stopped growing them .. or i should say.. buying new ones ... because they were ugly half the year.. and expensive ...



    prevailing winter winds are from the NW in MI .. and the freeze drying effects of such are killer on As and Rs ....


    i lost focus.. if i had a point. i dont know what it was.. lol ....other than there are many variables at work here .. the plant is extremely stressed ... and it looks like it ..


    i would put in in full bright shade.. in the pot.. keep it properly watered.. and ignore it until fall .. and then either get it planted in mid to late sept .. in MI.. mind you ... or just throw it away now.. because it is irritating the beegeebees out of me.. problem solved ....


    i would not waste.. time .. effort or money.. trying to fix it.. it either gets its act together.. or it dies.. and by now.. good riddance.. lol ...


    ken


    ps: the heat of july is not a good planting time .. just because you get a plant .. it is often wise to hold them until proper fall planting time ... i would also wonder if the seller had appropriate ag inspections ... how .. from july to dec you came down with a death sentence.. on what should have been delivered as clean stock ... and im even wondering why he shipped in july .. many places simply dont ship that time of year ... and i would not expect.. within months of planting.. that juglone to show inside of months on a recent transplant 50 feet from the tree ... in tree time.. i would expect problems from that to show in a couple years.. not months ... the more i type.;. the more i wonder about the quality of what your seller sent you ... apparently my focus returned.. before i hit send ...


  • 6 years ago

    Thank you both. This is my first house, hence last spring/summer was my first attempt at lots of garden related activities. I appreciate the advice and input. For reference, this was from rhododendrons direct. It certainly could be that one came to me already contaminated. The other is going strong for now, at least, and never had leaf curl to the same extent at this one and definitely not when the weather was still ~45-55 degrees.

  • 6 years ago

    The plant is not stressed....it is DEAD! Whether it came infected with phytophthora, developed it after planting or just succumbed to being dug up in winter and stored in the garage, it is still dead. Would agree that it is unlikely the juglone could have that dire an effect on a plant after only a few months in the ground and at that distance.

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