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What would do this and why?

Pictured below is a small Agave sharkskin pup that was planted in a pot last year. Yesterday I noticed that something had shredded it. I've never seen damage like this before and am at a loss to understand what did it.

I've had deer take out the newly emerging leaves from an agave in the front yard, but this in is the back where deer cannot reach it.

It's in a plant stand and not on the ground.

Anybody have any ideas? I would seem that there are plenty of better things to eat in the garden.



Comments (20)

  • 6 years ago

    It looks as it has been chewed on. How sure are you dear can't get to it?

    roselee z8b S.W. Texas thanked rina_Ontario,Canada 5a
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Rina yes, something sure chewed on it, but it wasn't a deer. My back yard is deer proof. It's in the turquoise pot shown here:


    There are squirrels, rats, and mice, raccoons, opossums, sparrows, mocking birds, red birds, etc. in the area, but what about an agave would interest any of them?

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    I do not know which animals - birds would like it. It looks to me as it could be larger animal - but who knows! I have rabbits chewing some of my unprotected shrubs down so much, it is hard to believe rabbit would be capable of!

    Did you noticed right away, or could it be few days of damage?

    Birds and other critters supposedly will attack plants if they are thirsty - I believe that and make sure there are always few bird baths with water available. They attack it for moisture, not as a food. Succulents are able to store lots of water. Is it very dry in your location? I know rats do it, and possibly any of what you named - if thirsty enough.

    BTW, I really like your painted trees-branches...:)

    roselee z8b S.W. Texas thanked rina_Ontario,Canada 5a
  • 6 years ago

    Could it be possible some bird is shredding the leaves and pulling out the fibers for nest construction? Our birds have been dismantling all the coir-lined hanging baskets.

    roselee z8b S.W. Texas thanked annieinaustin
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Rina, good question, but I have bird baths and several water bowls placed low around the yard for my ornate box turtles so there is no lack of water, however something has been destroying the Sempervivums for a couple of years now. But they are soft and chewable. Since water is available is it for food?

    Annie, good guess, it could be birds, but before the fibers were exposed how would they know they were there?

    Maybe it's birds that have been pecking the Sempervivums to death and they decided to play around with something else. I just wish I could catch whatever it is in the act to solve the mystery.

    We have anoles and Texas spiny lizards, but they are insect eaters. Squirrels? It seems they just like to gnaw on stuff.

    And who knows what goes on in the garden at night! Rats?

    I keep hoping someone had seen similar damage and can provide some clues.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    My vote is for rats! They are soooo destructive.

    This happened to my Echeveria a couple nights ago.



    Same thing happened to my beautiful Dudleya mound. This one hurts the most because it was so gorgeous with flowers all over. They ate the flower stalks too.



    My Dudleya mound was full of these, but now it looks like the above pic. It’ll take yrs to look nice again. All it took was one night.



    Baby Opalina


    I put out traps about a month ago and got a handful of Ratatouille 🐀, but now they’re coming from my neighbor. I think I will use a chubby little succulent as a sacrificial lamb tonight and put traps around it. So frustrating😡!

    roselee z8b S.W. Texas thanked Kara 9b SF Bay Area CA
  • 6 years ago

    It looks like deer to me. Are you sure that your yard is deer proof. I did not see 7' fence around your yard.

  • 6 years ago

    This poor agave was a good looking thing last year.




    They even tagged this big one.



    I need to plant another one there as a sacrificial agave so they leave the others alone.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Omar, Bob has a good appetite, but it doesn't include greens! LOL

    Kara, it's gotta' be rats! Maybe a cardinal could do damage like that, but why would they?

    When I was a kid growing up in San Antonio we never EVER had rats in the city. Quite a few years later we'd exclaim, "Was that grey streak I just saw a rat?"

    Now they are everywhere all over town, getting in cars chewing cables, in old houses, and in my green house.. They reproduce so quickly I don't think anything, neither poison or trapping, will get rid of them nowadays ... sigh.

    Mara true, I don't have an 8 ft fence, but there is so much foliage along the fence line they don't have a clear place to land. But even before all the plantings they never jumped my fence. Maybe it's because I've always had several dogs.

    Lordy! As your photos show the bucks sure can do a lot of damage to agaves, cactus, and small trees,

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    We do not have rats out here. Just field mice. Your Rats sound like pack rats but I know they are not.

    roselee z8b S.W. Texas thanked wantonamara Z8 CenTex
  • 6 years ago

    Mara, spoken messages are so much fun to try to figure out! Are your mice 'tired', 'fried' or 'friendly'?

  • 6 years ago

    You should keep a camera looking at that wireless, a remore wireless one. I once had a friend who had birds doing that to collect the fibers to build their nests. But, it's anyone's guess

    roselee z8b S.W. Texas thanked Meyermike(Zone 6a Ma.)
  • 6 years ago

    Mike, that's a possibility. A wireless motion camera would be fun.

    We do have to learn to live with wildlife these days, but so far I don't have armadillos, cut ants, or wild hogs, thank goodness.

  • 6 years ago

    Ragna I meant "FIELD" mice. LOL Auto spell strikes again.

  • 6 years ago

    I do have a armadillos that keeps flattening my compost pit. Wild hogs seem to stay in the ravine.

    roselee z8b S.W. Texas thanked wantonamara Z8 CenTex
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    roselee

    Can't tell how wide is the "green belt" you have next to your fence, but I was really surprised how far and high deer can jump.

    Damage on your plant looks more than I would expect of cardinals, but who knows. My vote is deer or rat...but maybe something else is getting in there. I think only way to find out is to get a field camera. I remember when Kevin (ewwmayo) set up one on his roof-top terrace. He squirrel-proofed it, and yet they were still getting in and were damaging his succulents. He even posted video. It helped to identify the vulnerable spot, and fix it...

    roselee z8b S.W. Texas thanked rina_Ontario,Canada 5a
  • 6 years ago

    I have had deer clear my 6.5' fence. I leaned up pipes above it to make it higher.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    I looked carefully at the chewed on agave this morning and see lots of loose, unconnected pieces of fiber so guess it's not a bird looking for nesting material.

    I'm going with rats.

    I've lived here over 30 years and have done extensive gardening in the back yard and would most certainly know if a deer ever visited. The dogs have flushed out raccoons, opposums, and skunks though, also squirrels of course.

    Hmmmm, could be it's a one of those bushy tailed rats, especially now that Rina has mentioned their damage to Kevin's succulents!

    I even had what we call a "Ring tail cat" here in Texas, take up residence for awhile under the store room.. They eat rodents. I didn't see any signs of rats for a long time after that.

    I wish I could convince the neighbors not to kill 'rat snakes', but it seems they kill them first and ask questions later.

  • 6 years ago

    The Rock Rose blog used to talk about hispid cotton rats wrecking things in her Hill Country garden.

    Also, there have been news articles from urban areas about the effect the closed businesses have had on rat populations. With no handy trash cans of fast food scraps or bins of restaurant debris available they're looking for new sources of food and even turning to cannibalism.

    Yuck! I hope it's something else!

    roselee z8b S.W. Texas thanked annieinaustin
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