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Alliums! (complaint)

6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago

I have a few types of allium in the garden (globe master, purple sensation, drumstick, etc... plus Schubertii).... but every year I thin the herd more and more.

Sure the blooms look great, especially the schubertii... but for me... the leaves start yellowing down and drooping at the ends at the exact time that the bloom show begins! Who planned that out!

Then you of course want to leave the blooms up as long as you can ... but if you wait to long...you get thousands of starts the next year all around... just like someone sprinkled grass seed in your perennial beds. The worst was when I left my drumstick ones up too long. Fighting off a million little grass-like seedlings was the worst... I ended up digging the the full sized plants up for a few years until they were all gone and then just kept hacking at and mulching over the seedlings.

Anyone else have a similar gripe!

Okay... done complaining.

Comments (27)

  • 6 years ago

    Me too! I have a gazillion seedlings. At first I thought it was great, but now I’m getting more ruthless. My leaves yellow at the same time as well, but they’re sort of hidden behind other stuff

  • 6 years ago

    I have a gazillion seedlings

    I love alliums. I have planted many and of different varieties but I have yet to see all the spread that you and others talk about...I know it happens and to be honest I wish it would happen for me!

  • 6 years ago

    Okay... done complaining.


    ==>>> feel better??? ... lol ... glad to enable you ....


    ken


    ps: well rouge ... then that z6 your gubment changed your last hundred year z5 to .... is probably wrong ... else the seed would probably winter over ... eh???

  • 6 years ago

    Nope ken_adrian...member Gargame is located north of me in a lower hardiness zone and she/he has the "gazillion seedlings".

  • 6 years ago

    I have a gazillion seedlings too....if they bloomed pretty it would be nicer but they don't. They look like mutated drumstick alliums with no purple...

  • 6 years ago

    I will make a note to never buy this/these plants!!

  • 6 years ago

    They have never grown for me (and bulbs are expensive). Last fall, I saw them at 75% off at the end of the season and decided to give them a shot.....in a pot. They are just about to bloom. There is no foliage to speak of (since I cut off all the yellow--and it was all yellow). I am going to cut them down when they are done, put annuals in the pot and see if the allium bulbs do anything next spring. If you're interested, I planted them in a frost-resistant pot over the winter in the garage and brought them out in March.

  • 6 years ago

    I hate how they become more and more pinheaded, despite still having the ungainly foliage. How can you keep their heads big??

  • 6 years ago

    ‘How can you keep their heads big??


    Give them lots of compliments? ☺️

  • 6 years ago

    I've been pulling seedlings for three years and really got aggressive this Spring. These are the Drumstick variety. ugh. I can't just toss them on the compost pile or at the edge of the field so I bag them up for the trash. I try to squish the bulb too.

    Thankfully I'm winning (so far) with the Grape Hyacinths. It has taken years, literally.

  • 6 years ago

    I grew many varieties fro many years (still have some) and have never seen a single seedling. Hmmm

  • 6 years ago

    Me too, me too callirhoe123.....a bit weird.

  • 6 years ago

    I got rid of my “tall” allium many years ago, couldn’t take the dying foliage and many seedlings. I’m now growing Millenium, not as big but no seedlings, the foliage looks great all season.

    Sherry

  • 6 years ago

    Well I’ll have to look out for that type. Looks nice

  • 6 years ago

    Millenium is one of my favorite perennial.


    Its one that comes early and tells record freezes to F off.


    Clumps tidy, green and upright all season. Flower stalks stay up all winter even with heavy snow.

  • 6 years ago

    I recalled this thread when I came across this front garden just today.



  • 6 years ago

    Alliums are a big part of our mid spring show. And they get quite a bit of attention from humans and bees. So many bees. The trick is plant timing. You should plant perennials around the alliums that begin to grow in and cover the dying allium foliage as it appears. Allium seedlings should be easy to deal with, especially if you have other plants planted close to the alliums. their seedlings like to take advantage of empty space but do not wrestle well for a spot.

  • 6 years ago

    I am willing to put up with some yellowing foliage to see this June show:



  • 6 years ago

    Agreed rouge. They spread like wildfire but look so great in late spring garden with the new foliage of Spirea Carpet (I know, I know...)

  • 6 years ago

    ...about the gazillion seedlings...maybe they survive because there is at least 1 1/2 metres of snow on top and it doesn’t freeze/thaw? Just guessing...

  • 6 years ago

    I used to dislike them also due to the dying foliage. My bed has since filled in and now I don’t even see it. I sure wish they would reseed here as mine just slowly disappear : (


    last year


  • 6 years ago

    Hmmm.....I've never had much luck with the taller alliums doing much of anything, much less seeding around! I wish I could have gotten them to stick around, but sounds like might make for more work in the garden with almost everyone talking about seedlings.

    I purchased a lot of 'Millenium' years ago. I know many sites say little to no seeding. After about 5 years of mine being in, they started seeding. I've now had many seedlings every year. It has been manageable for me, but last year was the first year I left only about 3 plants without deadheading. I actually do like to get some seedlings of this plant, just not so many. This year i'll probably start deadheading all of them. Sad, because as Whaas said, the flower stalks have real staying power. Just wanted to put it out there that they're not as "little to no seeding" as it's stated on many sites that sell them. It's not what I've experienced at all in my garden once they matured at bit. It is an outstanding plant for sure though.

    GardenHo, that is a beautiful picture.

  • 6 years ago

    Thyme thank you. It’s nice to see you posting again!

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    I love the large alliums, and this is one plant that gets commuters flying by to stop to ask what they are. In my soil and growing conditions (sandy acid soil and cold winters) I have only had one kind reseed, a white one that has added perhaps 10 plants over more than 10 years. Globemaster won’t reseed, but for any of the others, just remove the spent flowerheads to prevent unwanted seedlings. I have learned to plant them a couple of layers back in the garden, and where other perennials will cover the dying foliage. Many perennial Geraniums do a good job covering the old foliage.

    I do find the smaller Alliums to be more of a reseeding problem, but I can’t imagine a garden without the large alliums. I think that like with many plants, this is a case of right plant, right place.

  • 6 years ago

    Several years ago I planted a dense row of mixed allium ( lots of purple sensation and the like) in the back of a border that runs among the front of our sun porch. They were tall enough to be seen well, the foliage was well hidden by other plants, and it looked nice, but I couldn’t stand the smell!! After all the work of planting in the fall and waiting for the blooms I pulled them all because of their overwhelming aroma. They really stunk! I thought I had planned their planting perfectly. Almost...

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