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Help with lemon trees

6 years ago

I would love any advice on how to improve the health of three lemon trees in my backyard. They were planted by the previous owner of the house; we moved in about 9 months ago. I don't know anything about how the trees were maintained in the past. Trees are planted outside in Oakland, CA (Zone 10a). All three trees are planted nearby in about the same conditions (facing SW in a location that gets a lot of sunlight). For most of the last 9 months, we haven't done much other than water them sporadically. For the last two weeks, I've been watering them once a week and also mixed about a cup of organic citrus fertilizer (6-3-3) into the soil around each tree. I haven't seen any changes or improvements since then -- should I just be more patient?


Tree #1: https://imgur.com/a/hvo3gwK

This tree is the healthiest; it produces some fruit, although not a ton (5-10 lemons on the tree at most), and the lemons are fairly small. Anything I can do to help the tree produce more fruit?


Tree #2: https://imgur.com/a/76TMj8N

This tree produces some *tiny* fruit, but nothing edible. Some of the leaves have some black spots (third photo) -- any idea what this is?


Tree #3: https://imgur.com/a/IBTAX2K

This tree seems in pretty rough shape -- few leaves, never seen it produce anything that resembles fruit. I'm content to write this one off and replant it with a new tree, unless you folks think it is salvageable?


Any advice on how to improve the health of any/all of these trees would be very welcome!

Comments (3)

  • 6 years ago

    In zone 10.... the promised land for citrus. But surrounded by concrete...unhappy zone. 1 - concrete can raise the pH of the soil (making it basic due to chemistry of the concrete). 2 - the concrete limits the feeder root area which are predominantly surface - think inches. So #1, can inhibit uptake of nutrients in the limited area of #2. Feeder roots generically speaking spread to the foliage coverage area.

    The lighter and yellow tinged, lack of growth, unhealthy aspect could easily be a combination of the two. I'd recommend taking soil samples and sending them to your extension service where they will tell you the ph and mineral and sometimes organic % content.

    I wouldn't write off any of the trees, once you get a handle on the soil and nutrition.

    Lemons (and any citrus that are fruiting) are heavy feeders. So again, the principles above apply.

    In the interim, if you're only watering, for sure, given the lack of available nutrition for the roots (blocked in by concrete and no natural fertilizer - due to bio-decay of other plant material/compost), they are very likely in need of serious fertilizer (and possibly, acidifier, I would do two prong, vinegar for short term lower pH and longer term with sulfur).

    Neil C thanked Ken "Fruity Paws" (N-Va 7a)
  • 6 years ago

    Thank you for the advice! Yes, many of my neighbors have very healthy citrus trees (and we have a bountiful orange tree in our front yard), so my lemon trees are in a very sorry state by comparison :)


    I'll definitely look into soil analysis / making the soil for acidic if necessary -- I bought a cheap soil pH analyzer and it said the soil was fairly alkaline (~7.5 pH), but I'm not sure how much I can trust it.


    As a rough rule-of-thumb, does a fairly thorough watering once per week sound like enough water, too much water, or about right?

  • 6 years ago

    It's probably the concrete raising the pH and limited uptake of limited of plant food. Citrus want acidity, so below 7, all the way down to 6. The cheap meters aren't great. And you want and overall soil assessment, so you can buy pH strips, get de-ionized water (not tap or bottled), then take a couple of tablespoons of soil, pour in enough water to make moist, not wet and dripping. Then squeeze water out and apply test strip. That said, if it's measuring alkaline, it's definitely alkaline. They're not accurate on scale - but they are accurate on being acid or basic.

    As for watering, depends on your soil. Being in ground, generally is very forgiving. I don't know you're soil - is it sandy or clay? A few inches down in the soil, is it moist? I put 1" of water per week for my in ground fruit trees (none citrus in VA) and if I was zone 10, I would feel that would work for my citrus (soil retention dependent... if it was really sandy, it would require more frequent watering at that amount). I'm sure there are some CA citrus growers here who can perhaps give more salient advice on the soil retention and watering.