Whoa, too many thoughts to keep track of . Right now go get an actual kitchen designer not some cabinet sales person. If you want some free advice here you post a to scale floor plan with all measurements clearly marked and then get some ideas. Make sure that plan does show the wall removed. Since you do not want the breakfast are what is your thought about that space.

@Patricia Colwell Consulting I agree it’s a bit long but can’t edit...I’ll edit and repost. It’s really simple. I just need to know of placement for sinks. Do I need a prep sink... I would prefer to have regular sink in corner even after reading pros and cons...but I am willing to put in island. If that is done, should prep sink go in corner? I really need to know placement of sinks preferably by Mon., so no time for a KD. The long L can be anywhere from 17 to 18’ long. Total length of kitchen is 23’7” width as is, 9’9” but wall will come down so not confined to 9’9”. The Berwyn slab comes 11‘ long, so the space on either side of island will be 5’ and a few inches. I can work on cabinets ect later..I’m just needing to know sink placement now.

I'd use a prep sink on the island, which will be much more pleasant than prepping facing a wall. We spend more time prepping (70%) than cleaning up or cooking. You could put the clean-up sink and DW at the window end, with open shelves above. (I don't know if you want a small shelf on the other side of the window, but I stuck it in there.)

I drew the island at 3.5' x 10', but length can be adjusted, and if the slab is wide enough, the island could be deeper with an extra row of cabinets on the back (red rectangle) and two seats on the short side.

BTW, the DR seems really far from the kitchen, even if it's just used for holiday meals. Left side of drawing is awkward since pic is canted:

I was using the first plan posted, but here it is with the latter:

Not to be negative, but this is a huge undertaking so trying to make a hasty decision on where mechanicals should go could be a problem. Make your decision about the plumbing if you must but ask if something comes up can it be moved, then find yourself a kitchen designer right away because next you are going to be asked about where your appliances are going and what sort of lighting you are doing etc.

Personally I would not do the main sink in the island. My sink often has a bunch of dishes in it if I am doing a lot of cooking and who wants to see all that! Put the prep in the island. Make sure with the prep sink that you have room for the "dirty side" and then the clean side - many people put them at the end of the island and then you are just putting clean food back onto a place the had it before it was washed.

I know others will disagree, but I like a corner sink - when it is just for dishes and I like the picture you posted showing that.

Also make sure you look at 24" wall ovens - they are very small! The standard is 30".

My only other question is: do you like to open everything up for fresh air and breezes frequently? Quite often when I work on waterfront properties, I do no do painted cabinets because of the humidity.

Sounds like a great home! Good luck

@Debbi Washburn I only need sink and stove placements for the architect. I started looking at cabinets 4 weeks ago but people do not get back as they say. I’m trying... in the meantime I really don’t want to delay the architect because I would like to start building in August.

I am incorrect in oven...I checked and it’s a 30”.

We are in Florida. The only time we may open sliders for fresh air will be in winter when there’s much less humidity. We use A/C 99.99% of the time...lol

Yes I have many decisions...but the Island isn‘t moving much. With 11’ or a few inches less for Island and 5’ walkways on each end give or take a few inches., it shouldn’t be difficult to figure pendant placement, recessed lights ect. ....I Hope.

Im a bit confused on prep sink. I thought they were a single small sink. Arenyou thinking of a two sided prep sink? Thank you for your help!

@mama goose_gw zn6OH You have really giving me lots to think about. It makes sense for 2 different zones. We don’t use a MW so won’t be putting one in. These plans are as the House is now. It’s a wonky house for sure! We don’t have any family and it’s just the 2 of us. We decided bar was more important then DR..lol. Thats why the DR will be on other side of fireplace as it never gets used. We will have a finished outside covered porch 70’ long that will have a dining table right outside kitchen, 2 sitting areas, and outdoor kitchen.

So either its just hubby and me, or a party...lol

What is Appl mean in short L? is it better to have space between fridge and oven for a landing zone? I’m really liking your layout! Thank you...

Island will most likely be 5’ deep and just short of 11’ long as the slab for Berwyn is 11’ x 5’5”.

Thank you for your help!

Dana

@Debbi Washburn OK...understand. With your idea, do the prep area and cook area get in each other’s way?

Appl is for appliance garage, which is illustrated in one of the groups of pics In posted. When you have a tall appliances (oven) near a corner, the back section often becomes a 'cave', so there are options to make it into storage. That's a dark corner of the kitchen, even without the oven on the short run, which is why I moved the clean-up sink to the other end. The open shelves will allow more light to reach the kitchen, rather than the tall, deep, oven cabinet cutting off light from the window.

In the plan I posted, both ovens and fridge have landing space to one side, and island can also be used for fridge. If the fridge was moved to the right, to make space for landing between it and the ovens, it would be another step away from the prep space and cooktop. I like a little cubby on the outside, for the coffee pot, and MW, for easy access without someone coming into the work space. Since oven is 30, are you using a 30" or 33" cabinet?

@mama goose_gw zn6OH

Right around the corner of the kitchen is going to be our 7 to 7 bar that will include a built in coffee maker, smaller fridge, wine cooler, and bar sink. I want to keep counters clear. I will be having a cabinet made with a drawer tha has the paper towel on outside, we dont use toaster. The only thing I use to make my dogs food is a blender.

The kitchen designers have our appliance book as everything has been purchased already So they know dimensions needed. I am also looking into a local cabinet maker. My only concern is I have read that the paint will never hold up on custom cabinets from a local because they can’t get the finish like a manufacturer.

Our first meeting with the architect I wish he had told me when he would this information as I would have pushed harder to get it done. It’s a learning curve and I’ll never need this info again as we will die in this house...lol.

If you put the ovens to the left of the fridge, and don't need the MW or coffee center, you could have a tall pantry to the right of the fridge. Pantry width could be adjusted, whatever the oven cabinet will be. Good luck, and please come back to show us your finished kitchen!

I think your prep area should be a part of your cook area, so no - I don't think it gets in the way.

You must have proper walking spaces as well so everyone can move freely throughout the space.